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starter?; wouldn't start
Topic Started: Aug 25 2009, 10:05 PM (1,302 Views)
ffpmrich
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1st mishap with car. It would not start , Terrible grinding noise was able to get it running by pushing and jumping in and popping clutch with car in 1st, Started no problem after needed to start it next time. Is it time to change the starter? :(
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Johnny Mullet
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It's fine now or still making noises? It could be a damaged flywheel.
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Murf 59
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Also if you have to "bump" start it again. Use second gear. It is easier on the trans.
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Bad Bent
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Facetious Educated Donkey

I get the grinding noise maybe every 50 starts. For Moi? #1 stop. Engine OFF, I put it in gear, let out the clutch, release the hand brake and rock my 'back and forth' in my seat once. The car rocks. Mine starts perfectly after that. :dunno
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wikityler
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Some say...

Remove the starter and test it on a bench to confirm that the bendix is working properly, rather than binding once in a while.

On the bottom of the bell housing there is an access panel, you can remove this and inspect the flywheel teeth.
Edited by wikityler, Aug 26 2009, 12:58 AM.
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ffpmrich
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Thanks guys for the advice. I will give this all a try. Unfortunately I now have too start vacuuming the car out as I left the top down last night and it rained. :doh I was upset for my car failing me in front of my friends and made an attempt at drinking enough beer to help me forget it. :banghead
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ffpmrich
Aug 26 2009, 09:27 AM
I was upset for my car failing me in front of my friends and made an attempt at drinking enough beer to help me forget it. :banghead
Hate it when that happens :cheers
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pancakeron
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My starter just went out too! It just stopped,
couldnt get it to crank again, no matter what I tried.
At first I started chasing suspect wiring trouble...
quickly decided it's far easier to first disconnect the
small wire on the starter, then connect a jumper wire
to the battery pos (+) terminal, and touch the other
end of the jumper wire to where the small wire connects
on the starter..(make sure the car is in neutral/park).
The starter should give a response...(mine didn't).
it's also easier to just pull the starter out altogether,
then test it with jumper cables...(I got some serious
grinding noise when I connected battery to the motor
terminal
)
Took the starter apart, found the thrust/throwout bearing
to be the source of the grinding noise.(pics below).....
a new starter req'd, regardles of any other troubles...$65 at
Kragen's/O'rielly's, and 3 day wait for delivery...
...guess I'll start working on replacing the
floor carpet while waiting....
93'vert lsi - starter:
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dry/grinding - starter thrust/throwout bearing:
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ffpmrich
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I have had an extra starter sitting in the garage. I have decided to carry it with me for a little bit. Don't have a lot of time now but sometimes necessity is the mother of invention. At least I will have it with me encase I can't pop the clutch successfully .Someone here recommended doing that in 2nd gear as it is hard on the engine in 1st. I had herd of that but it is difficult to get up enough speed pushing by yourself. So far so good. I have not had a repeat. :D
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so today i replaced my radio and right after replacing it i noticed that theres a grind after the engine turns on, im guesing the bendix is not going back to its place, i read somewhere to grease it and try to see if that solves the issue, i also read that ot could be a sticking starter selenoid or that the ignition switch is going bad and sending power to the selenoid even after you take the key off the start. Would the radio instalation have anything to do with this? I seriously want to diagnose this problem, not judt start replacing parts. worse case scenerio i have a starter and switch replacement siting in my garage.
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Mrbreeze


Why are you resurrecting a 6 YEAR OLD thread?? Start a new one...
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pvr007
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I like to bring up dead threads if it has usefull information about my issue, more if it has pictures. That way i find it easier for others to someday find out the solution to their problem.
whats wrong with old threads, nothing wrong with them.
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pvr007
Mar 31 2015, 12:59 PM
I like to bring up dead threads if it has usefull information about my issue, more if it has pictures. That way i find it easier for others to someday find out the solution to their problem.
whats wrong with old threads, nothing wrong with them.
The issue ends up being that a lot of members will miss the fact that it is all old posts and will respond to the original question and completely ignore your question. In the end it's not the end of the world, but it is really annoying to some. It definitely leads to a lot of wasted time reading posts that are years old before ever getting to the question that you wanted to ask. It would probably be better to quote the posts that have the info you want to bring to your question, link the thread in your post, or just mention what you read.

In the end, this is one of those things that will happen no matter how many times members ask for others not to do it. If you do decide to pull a dead thread forward, you should probably expect some snark in response.

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Metromightymouse
Mar 31 2015, 11:01 PM
pvr007
Mar 31 2015, 12:59 PM
I like to bring up dead threads if it has usefull information about my issue, more if it has pictures. That way i find it easier for others to someday find out the solution to their problem.
whats wrong with old threads, nothing wrong with them.
The issue ends up being that a lot of members will miss the fact that it is all old posts and will respond to the original question and completely ignore your question. In the end it's not the end of the world, but it is really annoying to some. It definitely leads to a lot of wasted time reading posts that are years old before ever getting to the question that you wanted to ask. It would probably be better to quote the posts that have the info you want to bring to your question, link the thread in your post, or just mention what you read.

In the end, this is one of those things that will happen no matter how many times members ask for others not to do it. If you do decide to pull a dead thread forward, you should probably expect some snark in response.

:thumb :gp :gp :gp
old post revival :rasp
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Well, I'm only a few years late to respond about this...

Bench test with jumper cables? Umm, maybe for a 1/10 of a second -- just a tap to see if it spins. These are series-wound motors...they have nothing to limit how fast they spin...a second or two of full power with no load on them and they'll self-destruct....

Alright, you've all been warned. Don't do it. :D
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