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Metro Trans Swap - Need Advise; 1994 Swift 5sp
Topic Started: Nov 27 2009, 09:02 AM (3,100 Views)
Dgeo
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I just picked up a 1994 Suzuki Swift 5ps transmission with 43K miles. I want to put a new clutch kit in it and need recommendations. Should I buy one to fit the 1994 Swift or one for the 1998 Metro I have? Is there any difference in these clutch kits? What brand clutch kit do you recommend? :drivin
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that depends. if you have an n/a 3cyl I believe you have a heavier flywheel and iirc the disc diameter is smaller on the clutch. the turbo/gt flywheel is lighter. either clutch kit will slide into the transmission, but one has more holding power. if you have nothing but a few bolt ons. a stock clutch is fine for that car

a 94gt trans with low miles is rare. lucky
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The clutch should be the same. I would get the one for the 1998 model if they specify. Putting that swift trans will also give you a higher gear ratio and better fuel mileage.
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Clutch mounts on the engine, so get the one for your car, the transmission doesn't care. Three cylinders have a heavier flywheel and a smaller clutch. If your car is a three cylinder, you need to check closely to make sure all the mounting points are there. Some four cylinder trannys don't have the mount for the shifter brace rod.
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Johnny Mullet
Nov 27 2009, 08:52 PM
The clutch should be the same. I would get the one for the 1998 model if they specify. Putting that swift trans will also give you a higher gear ratio and better fuel mileage.
it shouldnt, the vert tranny is 4.39, the gt/turbos are 4.10, and then theres the ones below it. im pretty sure this transmission would yield more torque and higher rpms than fuel economy
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Woodie
Nov 28 2009, 08:47 AM
Clutch mounts on the engine, so get the one for your car, the transmission doesn't care. Three cylinders have a heavier flywheel and a smaller clutch. If your car is a three cylinder, you need to check closely to make sure all the mounting points are there. Some four cylinder trannys don't have the mount for the shifter brace rod.
this is true, but in my adventure of blowing up seven transmissions ive found that some 4cyl trannys have a bolt on the opposite side of the tranny that you can actually bolt it to, rather than the correct spot. some dont. its just a tab on the case of the tranny. the shifter itself will bolt up, but the support bar might not. and actually, on my last transmission I didnt have a tab, and I used a 4cyl tranny. so I just left the stabilizer bar unattached....
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The original poster hasn't said if his car has a three cylinder or a four (4.39 or 3.79) and he also hasn't said if the donor car is a GTi or a SOHC four (4.11 or 3.52) so anything we say is speculation at this point.
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except for the fact that if its a true 94 gt trans with that many miles he got a great deal!
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Nov 28 2009, 06:36 PM
The original poster hasn't said if his car has a three cylinder or a four (4.39 or 3.79) and he also hasn't said if the donor car is a GTi or a SOHC four (4.11 or 3.52) so anything we say is speculation at this point.
My '98 Metro is a 1L three cylinder and the trans I'm swapping is out of a '94 1.3L SOHC Swift with 43K miles.
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oh, so its not a GT transmission. that means it should be a 3.52 final drive ratio, which will keep your rpms lower on the highway and accelerate a little slower
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Use a good name brand clutch. And the fly wheel that came with the engine you are going to run. And if its missing the stab tab. You can always change out case halves. Yes its a pain in the behind. But quite do able. If you do, make sure you use the shims on the taperd roller bearings from the case you are going to use. Not the one with out the right tab. They do vary just a little bit.
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Nov 28 2009, 11:12 PM
Use a good name brand clutch. And the fly wheel that came with the engine you are going to run. And if its missing the stab tab. You can always change out case halves. Yes its a pain in the behind. But quite do able. If you do, make sure you use the shims on the taperd roller bearings from the case you are going to use. Not the one with out the right tab. They do vary just a little bit.
What is a good name brand clutch? I have not purchased clutches before. What is the stab tab? Do you have a pic of one?
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There's a mounting tab that sticks off of the three cylinder transmission that is not there on some four cylinder transmissions. Here's a picture of someone's home made mounting tab that he added: Posted Image

There's a much better picture on TeamSwift of the two tranny's sitting side by side with an arrow pointing to the difference, but I can't find it to save my life.

AHAAAA!!, I got it! Only took me two hours to figure out that it was in my "My Pictures" folder.

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Your 98 three cylinder has a 4.39 final drive ratio, that 94 SOHC will have a 3.52. Pretty big step there, going from the shortest one available to the tallest one available. Going to be as if your first gear no longer works, but you've now got a 6th.
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Nov 29 2009, 08:20 AM
There's a mounting tab that sticks off of the three cylinder transmission that is not there on some four cylinder transmissions. Here's a picture of someone's home made mounting tab that he added: Posted Image

There's a much better picture on TeamSwift of the two tranny's sitting side by side with an arrow pointing to the difference, but I can't find it to save my life.

AHAAAA!!, I got it! Only took me two hours to figure out that it was in my "My Pictures" folder.

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Your 98 three cylinder has a 4.39 final drive ratio, that 94 SOHC will have a 3.52. Pretty big step there, going from the shortest one available to the tallest one available. Going to be as if your first gear no longer works, but you've now got a 6th.
I think this one has the ear you speak of?

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ha, the top pic of the stab tab is mine
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