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| 1996 Geo Metro Spec V. 2door, 6speed, 2.5L , green | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 28 2009, 07:35 PM (1,633 Views) | |
| Dallas | Nov 28 2009, 07:35 PM Post #1 |
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I can't make up my mind. There's four endings to this project: they all include a megasquirt ecu. costs are only for the motor/related items, no suspension/etc 1) get it running naturally aspirated. they make about 190bhp stock. With an intake and exhaust with the ecu, I should be able to produce 170 horsepower to the wheels. Estimated cost: $1000. could be the most reliable and plenty power and decent economy. in a heavier car they are rated at 23mpg city. could consider mods for economy (low lift cams, gears, lightweight pulleys) and build it to get maximum efficiency while spending the least. would be the easiest on the components and not break any parts 2) Supercharger. I have one from a cobalt ss sitting in the shop, I could sell my custom turbo manifold for roughly the cost of a custom intake manifold. then its just pulleys and an exhaust and a meth injection kit. it could make 220whp, and sound insane in a metro. would consider a clutch at this point too. Estimated cost: $2000. Would get acceptable gas mileage. shouldnt break any parts, the transmission is pretty durable and im not looking at making big power 3) Race car. Gutted, built motor, cams, big turbo and nitrous and all sorts of other goodies. Could make 400whp if I wanted it to. Estimated cost: $5000. And it will probably break something I think either direction I take will be cool and fun enough that it wont matter. maybe I should save my big money for a different race car? What do you guys think I should do? I am leaning on the supercharger thing, because assuming I could keep my foot out of the gas it should get good enough gas mileage. if I built a race car, I couldnt daily drive it, and that brings up the price some more (having to buy another car... probably a beater, and suffer a little) where I could maybe just get it running and it would be the most reliable.... I'm so torn  
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| Coche Blanco | Nov 28 2009, 07:42 PM Post #2 |
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is soon to be "Shaggin in the Wagon"
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(I just woke up, so bare with me.) Why not turbo it, but not go balls out? You should get nearly the same gas mileage as long as you were out of the boost. |
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| Johnny Mullet | Nov 28 2009, 07:46 PM Post #3 |
"Geo Whisperer"
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He's already got one......... http://geometroforum.com/topic/2579909/ LOL, seriously, I have been wondering when you would get around to doing this project. I would go with choice #2 |
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| Dallas | Nov 28 2009, 08:11 PM Post #4 |
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I could. though my manifold is meant for a pretty high hp turbo  its such a sick manifold, that if I use it, I need to put it to proper use. I also have a brand new aftermarket header for it sitting in the shop too. the 3cyl is built balls out, but I cant expect maximum reliability from a project like that. nor could I if I made this 2.5 make 400+hp. a supercharger and a few bolt ons, something like 25% over stock hp shouldnt stress components too much. the stock motor could handle everything in that scenerio, whereas option 3 is pistons and other work I dont exactly want to do. with option 1 I could spend another 300-400 and get a nitrous kit and make more power than with the supercharger for less, and still have this option making the best economy or option #4, do #1 then sell it  I see you moved my thread here johnny boy edit: did I mention the factory 6speed spec transmission has an LSD? |
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| Dallas | Nov 28 2009, 08:25 PM Post #5 |
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heres some pics of the car:   the honda badge was just a joke... relax 
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| Bad Bent | Nov 28 2009, 08:43 PM Post #6 |
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"the honda badge was just a joke... relax B-)" Yea, right... you were actually bump drafting and it stuck, just before he spun out.  You'll need a collection of various badges so you can paste them to your drivers' side door, below the window, to symbolize all your kills. 
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| Mr Murf 59 | Nov 28 2009, 11:03 PM Post #7 |
Looking like a lost Irish tourist
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I may have missed it. But what kind of racing? |
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| Dallas | Nov 28 2009, 11:30 PM Post #8 |
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whatever its good at. I dont have anything in mind, perhaps it can just be my new daily driver if I go with option 1 or 2. |
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| z34-5speed | Nov 30 2009, 12:32 AM Post #9 |
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Has anything been done to the car since you got it? I remember those pics from forever ago. Kyle |
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| mwebb | Nov 30 2009, 12:41 AM Post #10 |
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put it together stock , same as nissan . spend the time you would have spent on the car learning the new GENERIC OBD2 protocols ,that are coming and the J2534 systems and get a real scope Pico 6 4000 series or ATS learn how to use and interpret pressure transducer waveforms and can . get ready learn how to learn - |
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| Dallas | Nov 30 2009, 11:54 AM Post #11 |
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I learned alot, thats pretty much all. checked somethings out on it here and there, but now is the time to start getting things together |
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| Dallas | Nov 30 2009, 11:55 AM Post #12 |
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doesn't really interest me |
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| Bad Bent | Nov 30 2009, 09:58 PM Post #13 |
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Facetious Educated Donkey
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"Supercharger. I have one from a cobalt ss sitting in the shop, I could sell my custom turbo manifold for roughly the cost of a custom intake manifold. then its just pulleys and an exhaust and a meth injection kit. it could make 220whp, and sound insane in a metro. would consider a clutch at this point too. Estimated cost: $2000. Would get acceptable gas mileage. shouldnt break any parts, the transmission is pretty durable and im not looking at making big power" So I look this over and it sounds like option #2 is the more practical and would get you on the road for a reasonable amount of money and still have and excellent time. Wasn't breaking parts and running lean the main issue with putting the 3 cylinder mice on steroids? 
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| Dallas | Dec 1 2009, 12:03 AM Post #14 |
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what do you mean running lean? that 3cyl beast is in a world of its own |
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| Bad Bent | Dec 1 2009, 02:12 AM Post #15 |
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Facetious Educated Donkey
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 My bad, I was thinking of another beast. Oops. 
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