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| Tweet Topic Started: May 31 2010, 09:39 AM (1,052 Views) | |
| Spock | May 31 2010, 09:39 AM Post #1 |
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Live Long and Prosper.
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So I just got through replacing the turbo on my WRX. What a PITA Anyway, the Subaru dealer told me that the cheapo oil filters that the 'quickie lube' uses do not have a check valve and as such let the oil drain back out of the turbo and cause it to dry start and eventually fail, as mine did. I was wondering if I could apply the same logic to my Metro. When I cold start the Metro, it runs rough as hell for 5-10 seconds. I am thinking that the oil is draining back out of the lifters and they are not pushing the valves open until the pressure comes up. I know it could be a billion other things, but I am due for an oil change and this is cheap troubleshooting. So my big overall question is: WHAT OIL FILTER should I use? And, yes, I take my car to the quickie lube down the street for oil changes. The way I see it, for 22.50 they can have oil spill all over them and run down their arms and stain their driveway, etc. I'll get all greasy on more fun projects But if this oil filter is the culprit on both cars, maybe 22.50 isn't such a great deal
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| 91 ragtop | May 31 2010, 10:01 AM Post #2 |
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There should be a check valve between the block and the head that keeps the lifters from draining out. If the engine has been apart it may have been overlooked. Ken..... |
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| 96Geoman | May 31 2010, 10:47 AM Post #3 |
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![]() ![]() M - 102 Oil Filter by Mobile 1. The K&N filter is the same except for the spot welded nut on the end. The nut has a hole in it for safety wire. Both filters have a thick can and are actually larger than the standard filter. |
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| Johnny Mullet | May 31 2010, 02:09 PM Post #4 |
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Fear the Mullet
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I trust Baldwin or Wix filters. |
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| wikityler | May 31 2010, 03:19 PM Post #5 |
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Some say...
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Some cheap filters have a valve that is made from paper, which obviously isn't a very good material to use and will let oil leak past. Better filters have a valve made from neoprene, nitrile rubber, or butyl rubber. |
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| Bad Bent | May 31 2010, 06:16 PM Post #6 |
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Facetious Educated Donkey
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I'm just not the trusting soul I should be when it comes to having others work on my car. I want to know what 5W30 synthetic oil is in it and what filter is used. I bought a torque wrench from Harbor Freight that likely has a 3 foot pound tolerance but it's close enough. I torque the bolt to spec. At worst I drop the warm bolt in the pail when I remove it from the oil pan and fish for it, getting oil on my fingers. Gloves? Next would be the oil filter which I remove with a plastic trash bag. Kind of like how one might use a dog poo bag. I know it's more fully drained and the filter was installed hand tight but tight and there was a film of oil on the gasket to make removal easier. But that's moi.
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| mwebb | May 31 2010, 09:28 PM Post #7 |
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FOG
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there is an oil filter thread about all the stuff you want to read about , in this very forum . use the search function . having said that do not use K&N anything and you should be using European specification ACEA A3,B3-B4 5w30 synthetic oil at 6k interval. not the UNrated jiffy lube salad oil . a few other threads regarding that again use the search function or go to BITOG forums |
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| 96Geoman | Jun 1 2010, 06:05 AM Post #8 |
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| metroschultz | Jun 1 2010, 10:13 AM Post #9 |
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Please just call me; "Schultz"
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K&N filter media allow too much debris through. K&N flow better by having bigger "holes" for the fluid (air or oil) to pass through. For example; Wix oil filter, filters to 7 microns, where as a K&N only filters to 25 microns. (numbers pulled from @ss, used for illustration only) Many new car and truck manufacturers won't warranty your vehicle if they find K&N on it. I know Ford, International, and Mack all won't, I suspect most won't. Ford and International want the fuel filtered down to 3 microns at the final stage of filtration. That's a pretty damned small hole for fuel to flow through and too small for water to flow through. They love their injectors and you don't want to pay for new ones. Edited by metroschultz, Jun 1 2010, 11:14 PM.
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| mwebb | Jun 1 2010, 12:10 PM Post #10 |
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FOG
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their products are very overpriced and do not perform as claimed by the marketing to say the least .... |
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But if this oil filter is the culprit on both cars, maybe 22.50 isn't such a great deal








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