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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 10 2010, 07:14 PM (4,487 Views) | |
| Horn | Jun 10 2010, 07:14 PM Post #1 |
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ok found a red suzuki swift 4 cyl 5spd for $500 (either clutch or cable is junk) runs good. I currently drive a black 96 metro 3 cyl 5 spd (I have been wanting the 3.79 trans for a long time) so I was thinking .....The red one is nicer so how hard would it be to pull the 3 cyl out and put it in my red one. Im not talking about how hard it is to yank out motors, but im wondering about the whole wiring/ electronics side of it. Could I just swap the motors, wiring harnesses, and ecus and call it a day???? any info would help thanx. (yes I know it would be easier to swap trannys but the red one is nicer and the black one has a bit of rust through on the frame. also by the time I get done I would like to sell the black with the 4 cyl swap) sound like a good plan to me |
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| mjspiess | Jun 10 2010, 07:57 PM Post #2 |
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What year is the Swift? That will determine how "easy" it is. Is your '96 OBDII or OBDI? If the Swift is the same as your '96, should be a pretty straight forward swap, but I do believe the 4 cylinders have 1 more or 1 less motor mount. I'm sure someone will come by & clarify. If they are different OBD systems, then it'll be a lot hard to make the swap. It does sound like a pretty good idea though...besides time, you really wouldn't be out too much then if you're able to sell your old whip. |
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| Horn | Jun 11 2010, 01:48 AM Post #3 |
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my bad. the swift is a 2000 or 01......my car was made in march 96. what else should I look for to see if its obd1 or obd2
Edited by Horn, Jun 11 2010, 02:03 AM.
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| nerys | Jun 11 2010, 01:51 AM Post #4 |
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Grr
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I believe it MUST be II in 1995 "some" were I and some were II but I believe 100% of 96 by law had to be II (I could be wrong I think I remembered reading that) |
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| Horn | Jun 11 2010, 02:04 AM Post #5 |
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i hope ur right nerys.....it would make life a lot easier. lol |
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| Woodie | Jun 11 2010, 06:51 AM Post #6 |
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All 95's are OBD1 and all 96's are OBD2. No way I would make that swap, the 2000 has the best engine ever put into a Metro and the mileage difference would be minuscule. Spend $120 for a clutch and have a much nicer car to drive. |
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| Coche Blanco | Jun 11 2010, 09:03 AM Post #7 |
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Troll Certified
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What engine is that? |
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| mjspiess | Jun 11 2010, 10:16 AM Post #8 |
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That's a heck of a deal! http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1783766278.html It just might need the clutch cable adjusted & you could call it a day! I know you want that 3 cylinder matched with the taller tranny & I'd say you could do it fairly easily, but either way, it'd be a tough vehicle to pass up. Clutch cable $20? New Sachs clutch kit $115. That's not a bad deal even if both are bad. |
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| Horn | Jun 11 2010, 10:17 AM Post #9 |
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woodie are you serious? You are telling me I will be getting almost the same gas mileage out of a 4 cyl with a 3.79 then if I have the 3 cyl with a 3.79. for some reason that just doesn't sound right.... and I dont think its the clutch. the cable is broke |
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| Horn | Jun 11 2010, 10:21 AM Post #10 |
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yea im stoked about it. no rust anywhere. not on the rockers, not on the quarters, no frame rust.It was onwed by an 80 yr old guy. just had new muffler on it and I think brakes!...and can anybody explain woodies reasoning on the motors. Im really hoping the clutch is fine (im kind of banking on it because I don't have a truck but I'm gonna change the clutch cable and hopefully drive it away,. |
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| mjspiess | Jun 11 2010, 10:28 AM Post #11 |
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Well, Woodie owns a 4 cylinder 5 speed... They do get pretty good mileage, but you'll see some pretty good gains slapping on that 3 cylinder...believe me The other option could be to snag a 3.52 & slap that onto the Swift 4 cylinder. You'd prob. be able to crack 50 mpg with that combo, but not positive.
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| Horn | Jun 11 2010, 10:32 AM Post #12 |
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yea but it took me a while to find the 3.79. so it would be harder to find the 3.52 and I only want one geo. already have enought projects.....wait Im just double checking that an 01 4 cyl swift has 3.79 |
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| Coche Blanco | Jun 11 2010, 10:44 AM Post #13 |
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Troll Certified
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4cyl vs 3cyl = the mileage is close, and the driveablity/power increase is noticeable. |
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| Horn | Jun 11 2010, 10:45 AM Post #14 |
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can anybody verify that the 01 4 cyl swift had the 3.79. I have seen some sites say 3.79 and others say. 4.10. Il be frustrated if its the the 4.10. lol Its just my luck that I would have the wrong trans |
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| mjspiess | Jun 11 2010, 10:45 AM Post #15 |
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Yeah, I hear ya. The Swift should have the 3.79. Good luck with the clutch cable. |
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The other option could be to snag a 3.52 & slap that onto the Swift 4 cylinder. You'd prob. be able to crack 50 mpg with that combo, but not positive.
7:39 PM Jul 10