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Marijuana vs. Alcohol; Alcohol is fine, pot is not.
Topic Started: Aug 14 2010, 10:01 AM (7,249 Views)
HelterSkelter
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i wouldn't recommend mixing them.... unless you like throwing up every five minutes on the way home from a club....
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iamgeo
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Dude! Desmond chimed in and told us what he likes to do, and yet you still claim that a couple hits or so is not enough to affect you. You are just dead wrong.
I talked to a person today that said what I and others say. Sometimes just a couple hits or so is all that is needed to calm down.
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HelterSkelter
Nov 13 2012, 02:26 PM
i like a single drink before bed, in wine terms they call it a night cap since it makes you a little drowsy. i used to smoke shwag so a whole joint was necessary for you to even feel it. i liked it over dro because you got to enjoy the smoking part of it and it's a more mellow high since it has more cannabinoids than thc so you don't get a trippy high you get a mellow munchy filled high. i pretty much quit smoking when i turned 20 though.
Please note that all four sentences in this post start with I. Nothing wrong with that, but this is purely your preference. Taking your opinion and turning it into a blanket statement is silly.
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Woodie
Nov 14 2012, 06:42 AM
HelterSkelter
Nov 13 2012, 02:26 PM
i like a single drink before bed, in wine terms they call it a night cap since it makes you a little drowsy. i used to smoke shwag so a whole joint was necessary for you to even feel it. i liked it over dro because you got to enjoy the smoking part of it and it's a more mellow high since it has more cannabinoids than thc so you don't get a trippy high you get a mellow munchy filled high. i pretty much quit smoking when i turned 20 though.
Please note that all four sentences in this post start with I. Nothing wrong with that, but this is purely your preference. Taking your opinion and turning it into a blanket statement is silly.



please not that at this point in my post i was talking about my personal preferences so of course it was opinions at that point.

also please go back to my first post and realize we were discussing whether or not drinking 1
drink was comparable to smoking weed.
Edited by HelterSkelter, Nov 14 2012, 03:05 PM.
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Woodie
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Here's what the discussion was about:

iamgeo
Aug 14 2010, 10:01 AM
What is it about pot that makes it so evil? It's not physically addictive.
Alcohol is a much worse drug. It is physically addictive.
Yet it is accepted as a way to relax and to have in social settings.

You brought up this one drink vs a whole joint in post #141.

Edited by Woodie, Nov 15 2012, 06:15 AM.
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HelterSkelter
Nov 13 2012, 05:52 PM
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Nov 13 2012, 03:51 PM
HelterSkelter
Nov 12 2012, 07:47 PM
yes, but a single drink won't intoxicate you and a joint will. don't act like you don't understand what i'm talking about.
Maybe you and your friends were smoking too much. Ive come home and just taken a hit or two to chill down, same as if I come home and just want one drink to chill.

With the magic of self control we can all stop after a bit and not smoke the whole joint.

Also not all of us use joints, i prefer to vape or use a bong so taking 2 hits doesnt really hurt anything, just relight later where as with ajoint it will taste gross later and you have to put it out and all that...


:ermm: if you don't smoke enough to feel the effects of marujuana, how does it calm you? a single drink works differently in the brain than a single smoke. with weed it's just thc and cannabinoids that are making the effects. in alcohol when you have one drink, a small amount of alcohol enters the body, too small to have an effect, the alcohol isn't what is calming you, it's the release of the neurotransmitter GABA that's caused by the alcohol. GABA then does a lot of different things which result in calming, if you want to know what they are look it up, i don't want to write several paragraphs explaining it and the terminology associated with it.

in short, weed's effects come only from the effects of thc and you have consume enough weed to feel the effects of the thc and cannabinoids for it to affect you at all. alcohol can be consumed in small enough portions so that it does not intoxicate you but can still affect you through GABA release.

they are NOT comparable

i'm not saying weed is bad, weed is good and should be legal, but the two are like apples and oranges in terms of how they work.

I honestly don't know about all the science stuff behind it. I know that for me when I smoke it I can just get a little high. I can keep smoking it and get really high, to a point. If its not quality stuff you can just keep smoking and smoking it but your not going to get higher, your just going to make it last longer. When I smoke it I like to use a vaporizer and then run the smoke through a thing I made that cools the smoke. (pm me for info) I can take 1 or 2 hits and I can feel it. I don't start to feel giggly or anything else that's associated with the pot other than a calming feeling much like having a drink or two. After that I can choose to have more and get stoned or I can stop and just be slightly mellowed.

I buy Good Quality weed. This makes an eminence difference. If its shit weed I'd agree with you. You toke a few and nothing happens. Then suddenly your stoned. (if its even strong enough to qualify as getting "stoned") If its quality stuff I'm able to vary the amount of high I get.

But this is my own personal body. You may not get the same highs as me. People Ive introduced to weed have had the same experience as me.

Method of delivery seems to be an issue too. Cheap pipe just doesn't work the same way, just as a water pipe or gravity pipe will be different than a vaporizer.

(Trying to post a .gif but I want it smaller anyone know to resize them?)
Edited by DesmondGhostRider, Nov 15 2012, 03:45 PM.
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Nov 15 2012, 03:39 PM
HelterSkelter
Nov 13 2012, 05:52 PM
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Nov 13 2012, 03:51 PM
HelterSkelter
Nov 12 2012, 07:47 PM
yes, but a single drink won't intoxicate you and a joint will. don't act like you don't understand what i'm talking about.
Maybe you and your friends were smoking too much. Ive come home and just taken a hit or two to chill down, same as if I come home and just want one drink to chill.

With the magic of self control we can all stop after a bit and not smoke the whole joint.

Also not all of us use joints, i prefer to vape or use a bong so taking 2 hits doesnt really hurt anything, just relight later where as with ajoint it will taste gross later and you have to put it out and all that...


:ermm: if you don't smoke enough to feel the effects of marujuana, how does it calm you? a single drink works differently in the brain than a single smoke. with weed it's just thc and cannabinoids that are making the effects. in alcohol when you have one drink, a small amount of alcohol enters the body, too small to have an effect, the alcohol isn't what is calming you, it's the release of the neurotransmitter GABA that's caused by the alcohol. GABA then does a lot of different things which result in calming, if you want to know what they are look it up, i don't want to write several paragraphs explaining it and the terminology associated with it.

in short, weed's effects come only from the effects of thc and you have consume enough weed to feel the effects of the thc and cannabinoids for it to affect you at all. alcohol can be consumed in small enough portions so that it does not intoxicate you but can still affect you through GABA release.

they are NOT comparable

i'm not saying weed is bad, weed is good and should be legal, but the two are like apples and oranges in terms of how they work.

I honestly don't know about all the science stuff behind it. I know that for me when I smoke it I can just get a little high. I can keep smoking it and get really high, to a point. If its not quality stuff you can just keep smoking and smoking it but your not going to get higher, your just going to make it last longer. When I smoke it I like to use a vaporizer and then run the smoke through a thing I made that cools the smoke. (pm me for info) I can take 1 or 2 hits and I can feel it. I don't start to feel giggly or anything else that's associated with the pot other than a calming feeling much like having a drink or two. After that I can choose to have more and get stoned or I can stop and just be slightly mellowed.

I buy Good Quality weed. This makes an eminence difference. If its shit weed I'd agree with you. You toke a few and nothing happens. Then suddenly your stoned. (if its even strong enough to qualify as getting "stoned") If its quality stuff I'm able to vary the amount of high I get.

But this is my own personal body. You may not get the same highs as me. People Ive introduced to weed have had the same experience as me.

Method of delivery seems to be an issue too. Cheap pipe just doesn't work the same way, just as a water pipe or gravity pipe will be different than a vaporizer.

(Trying to post a .gif but I want it smaller anyone know to resize them?)



a little high is still high. one drink will not get you a little drunk. what i was saying, if anyone took the time to actually read my post, was that a single drink will not give you the effects of alcohol, it gives you the effects of GABA release. it takes several drinks to get drunk or even tipsy.

the original argument was whether coming home and having a single drink was comparable to smoking weed when you got home.


smoking weed=getting high= feeling the effects of the weed

single drink=not getting drunk=not feeling the effects of the alcohol

if they had said smoking weed was comparable to drinking a lot, i would have agreed.
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Nov 17 2012, 09:39 PM
a little high is still high. one drink will not get you a little drunk. what i was saying, if anyone took the time to actually read my post, was that a single drink will not give you the effects of alcohol, it gives you the effects of GABA release. it takes several drinks to get drunk or even tipsy.
Have to disagree with you. It really depends on the person doing the drinking.
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HelterSkelter
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well, i meant that if you are drinking a "nightcap". as in enough alcohol for you to not get intoxicated, but for GABA to release. for most women it is one drink for most men it is two drinks.

like a glass of wine before bed, not talking about a hurricane or something like that.
Edited by HelterSkelter, Nov 17 2012, 10:51 PM.
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Oh ok I got ya
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DesmondGhostRider
Nov 17 2012, 11:17 PM
Oh ok I got ya


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Or...did I just get a little high n stop caring....
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Nov 18 2012, 07:31 AM
Or...did I just get a little high n stop caring....


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