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Marijuana vs. Alcohol; Alcohol is fine, pot is not.
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Topic Started: Aug 14 2010, 10:01 AM (7,254 Views)
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Coche Blanco
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Nov 7 2012, 10:56 PM
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- Cobrajet25
- Nov 7 2012, 10:54 PM
My only stipulation about legalization would be having to take a piss test before qualifying for ANY public assistance. The taxpayers should not be paying your rent and buying your frozen burritos so you can spend all your cash on weed.

What are your thoughts on driving under the influence?
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Cobrajet25
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Nov 7 2012, 10:58 PM
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- Coche Blanco
- Nov 7 2012, 10:56 PM
- Cobrajet25
- Nov 7 2012, 10:54 PM
My only stipulation about legalization would be having to take a piss test before qualifying for ANY public assistance. The taxpayers should not be paying your rent and buying your frozen burritos so you can spend all your cash on weed.
 What are your thoughts on driving under the influence? Well, obviously that too. Thought it went without saying.
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iamgeo
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Nov 7 2012, 11:00 PM
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I'm really curious as to how businesses in Colorado and Washington are going to change their drug policy regarding pot.
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Cobrajet25
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Nov 7 2012, 11:01 PM
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- starscream5000
- Nov 7 2012, 10:44 PM
- Spock
- Nov 7 2012, 10:39 PM
I think it's wrong that your company can fire you for doing something that is perfectly legal, on your own time, that doesn't affect your work performance
Big Picture: How can you have a company policy AGAINST something that is perfectly legal? Seems like an open door to a wrongful termination lawsuit to me.
I agree.  I can already see the lawsuits starting up over it too... Employers have long been able to fire a person for showing up to work drunk, or under the influence of any other OTC medication. Read your contract. Personally, I would not want an airline pilot flying me to Denver after getting totally smoked out the night before.
It is my understanding that you can still be under the influence, in some physical/mental sense, after the "high" wears off.
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starscream5000
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Nov 7 2012, 11:32 PM
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- Coche Blanco
- Nov 7 2012, 10:56 PM
- Cobrajet25
- Nov 7 2012, 10:54 PM
My only stipulation about legalization would be having to take a piss test before qualifying for ANY public assistance. The taxpayers should not be paying your rent and buying your frozen burritos so you can spend all your cash on weed.
 What are your thoughts on driving under the influence?
 Think of all the millions/billions we could have saved in taxpayer dollars if this would have been in effect since day one.
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Coche Blanco
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Nov 7 2012, 11:43 PM
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- starscream5000
- Nov 7 2012, 11:32 PM
- Coche Blanco
- Nov 7 2012, 10:56 PM
- Cobrajet25
- Nov 7 2012, 10:54 PM
My only stipulation about legalization would be having to take a piss test before qualifying for ANY public assistance. The taxpayers should not be paying your rent and buying your frozen burritos so you can spend all your cash on weed.
 What are your thoughts on driving under the influence?
 Think of all the millions/billions we could have saved in taxpayer dollars if this would have been in effect since day one. I have a sinking feeling that the money would just go to something else unneeded.
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Shinrin
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Nov 8 2012, 01:26 AM
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- Spock
- Nov 7 2012, 10:39 PM
- Shinrin
- Nov 7 2012, 10:23 PM
Whether its legal or not, if they specified when you got the job that you could be fired for smoking pot, I do believe they can still fire you.
You may be right. I'm not a lawyer. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this whole thing. I think it's wrong that your company can fire you for doing something that is perfectly legal, on your own time, that doesn't affect your work performance. Coche: Sure, alcohol is legal in Alabama. But pot is now legal in Colorado. Turn it around if you want to. What if my hypothetical worker wasn't just visiting Colorado. What if he/she LIVED in Colorado. Do you still think it would be OK for the company to fire him/her? Big Picture: How can you have a company policy AGAINST something that is perfectly legal? To me, it's like saying "hey, if you eat at McDonald's, we're gonna find out. And if we find traces of Big Mac in your piss, we're gonna fire you." Seems like an open door to a wrongful termination lawsuit to me. Pfft, majority of jobs are private companies. As long as it's not a gender, race, or religion issue, they can just about fire you for anything.
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Cobrajet25
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Nov 8 2012, 03:06 AM
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- Shinrin
- Nov 8 2012, 01:26 AM
- Spock
- Nov 7 2012, 10:39 PM
- Shinrin
- Nov 7 2012, 10:23 PM
Whether its legal or not, if they specified when you got the job that you could be fired for smoking pot, I do believe they can still fire you.
You may be right. I'm not a lawyer. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this whole thing. I think it's wrong that your company can fire you for doing something that is perfectly legal, on your own time, that doesn't affect your work performance. Coche: Sure, alcohol is legal in Alabama. But pot is now legal in Colorado. Turn it around if you want to. What if my hypothetical worker wasn't just visiting Colorado. What if he/she LIVED in Colorado. Do you still think it would be OK for the company to fire him/her? Big Picture: How can you have a company policy AGAINST something that is perfectly legal? To me, it's like saying "hey, if you eat at McDonald's, we're gonna find out. And if we find traces of Big Mac in your piss, we're gonna fire you." Seems like an open door to a wrongful termination lawsuit to me.
Pfft, majority of jobs are private companies. As long as it's not a gender, race, or religion issue, they can just about fire you for anything. Government already discriminates against people when hiring them. Smokers.
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Woodie
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Nov 8 2012, 05:24 AM
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- Spock
- Nov 7 2012, 10:39 PM
I think it's wrong that your company can fire you for doing something that is perfectly legal, on your own time, that doesn't affect your work performance.
How about this? I think it's wrong that they can fire you for doing ANYTHING that doesn't affect your work performance. Don't see where legal should enter into it in any way.
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busteriver
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Nov 8 2012, 05:37 AM
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I think the Feds will mess things up anyway.As of now. You will only be able to carry 1 oz without penalty or confiscation. Growing and buying will have to be worked out in the future and that is where the Feds will screw things up.As for testing, they have the tests to see if you are actually high at the moment but let's face it,most everyone who smokes does so on a regular basis and are constantly high. [from the time their feet hit the ground in the morning until they go to bed at night.]
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Woodie
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Nov 8 2012, 07:49 AM
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I disagree with that bold statement completely. I know plenty of people who smoke once in a while, like once a month or so.
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iamgeo
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Nov 8 2012, 09:46 AM
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- busteriver
- Nov 8 2012, 05:37 AM
but let's face it,most everyone who smokes does so on a regular basis and are constantly high. [from the time their feet hit the ground in the morning until they go to bed at night.] Seriously? You are ill-informed or just do not have a clue. Would you say the same thing about people that drink alcohol? Do most of them drink from sunup to sundown? Are they constantly drunk? No, most are not.
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Coche Blanco
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Nov 8 2012, 10:00 AM
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- Woodie
- Nov 8 2012, 07:49 AM
I disagree with that bold statement completely. I know plenty of people who smoke once in a while, like once a month or so.
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zaxle
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Nov 8 2012, 11:10 AM
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I'm a Washingtonian and i voted to legalize it (weed) because of the problems with the fed's. the individual states are supposed to be self governing and the fact that the feds can step in and over rule what has been legally voted on is a gross over step of power and this needs to be checked.
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Nov 8 2012, 11:28 AM
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- busteriver
- Nov 8 2012, 05:37 AM
I think the Feds will mess things up anyway.As of now. You will only be able to carry 1 oz without penalty or confiscation. Growing and buying will have to be worked out in the future and that is where the Feds will screw things up.As for testing, they have the tests to see if you are actually high at the moment but let's face it,most everyone who smokes does so on a regular basis and are constantly high. [from the time their feet hit the ground in the morning until they go to bed at night.]
Hows the kool-aid?
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