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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 12 2010, 04:28 PM (4,960 Views) | |
| Memphis metro | Sep 12 2010, 04:28 PM Post #1 |
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I have not read it yet but thought others might be interested for the subject has been talked about. I will stick to my usual way myself. For those that might be interested, http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Like-the-55-Chevy-the-nytimes-3825041162.html?x=0&mod=pf-family-home |
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| poorman1 | Sep 12 2010, 05:38 PM Post #2 |
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There was a time when the 3,000 miles was a good guideline,” said Philip Reed, senior consumer advice editor for the car site Edmunds.com. “But it’s no longer true for any car bought in the last seven or eight years.” That leaves out metros |
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| Coche Blanco | Sep 12 2010, 05:51 PM Post #3 |
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We've had this discussion. For Metro engines, the 1.0s at least, it doesn't matter on the oil change, because rebuilds are so cheap. If you have a car with a 5,000 dollar engine, you probably want to follow the guidelines. I suggest following the guidelines either way. |
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| Sparky | Sep 12 2010, 06:37 PM Post #4 |
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Isn't it weird that some people actually think that way? They think that since an engine is so cheap that they shouldn't have to go to the trouble to take good care of it. I suspect that those people have a problem with personal milestones. It makes me feel good to know that just two years ago I finally had to install a new engine on my Toro Groundsmaster mower. I mean, heck, it only lasted 28 years. Clean arl is gud.
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| iamgeo | Sep 12 2010, 07:15 PM Post #5 |
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I second that Sparky. |
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| nerys | Sep 12 2010, 09:50 PM Post #6 |
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Here is the way I see oil changes. They are the absolutely positively without a single down CHEAPEST car insurance you can buy that "actually" does something for you. its $15 MAX. $18 if your lazy and let someone else do it. I change at 3000 miles on the dot no questions asked without fail. 496,000 miles on the Cherokee says something is working. 220,000 on the clubwagon 192,000 on the voyager 160,000 or so on the metro. ITS CHEAP. Change the damned oil. if your slightly lazy like me? $4 at HF gets quick change spout. One wheel on the curb unscrew the cap by hand screw on the hose by hand it pops open the valve oil pours out. unscrew the oil filter into the pan screw on new filter (dip finger in oil to oil the rubber seal) unscrew the hose screw the cap back on fill with oil done NO tools needed back car off curb. Edited by nerys, Sep 12 2010, 09:51 PM.
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| obaja | Sep 12 2010, 10:15 PM Post #7 |
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UNBELIEVABLE. As for me, all my vehicles i change the oil at 3,000 miles or 4 months. After 6 months oil starts turning acidic and starts eating away main bearings and such. Oil changes are so cheap, and the life of the engine. Lubricates everything. |
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| Woodie | Sep 13 2010, 05:55 AM Post #8 |
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Recommended oil change interval is 7,500 miles on regular oil. 5,000 or one year is more than enough, especially if you're using good oil or synthetic. |
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| DaFoneguy | Sep 13 2010, 07:48 AM Post #9 |
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Oil change intervals are an item of great controversy. The oil company has been pushing this 3000 mile thing for over 30 years selling lots of oil along the way. The vehicle manufacturers tend to be a bit more liberal, suggesting up to 10000, maybe so you have to replace the car sooner. When I had a job servicing cars for a national car rental company, we changed oil at 7500 miles. The oil will lubricate parts, that is its job, and will last longer than 3000 miles. There is some contamination of the oil over a few months, three or four, but not to the point where the oil is unusable. Dirt is your big enemy. A quality filter removes particulate matter but will not remove microscopic contaminates. Flood an engine to the point of won't start, and you will have gas mixed in with your oil. Overheat an engine and have the oil viscosity break down, sure to lead to engine failure, even if the overheating doesn't kill the engine. I run 100% synthetic in my motorcycle, always have, and at 16000 miles, I am on my 4th oil change. The oil remains clean, slick on the fingertips, and does not evaporate. 5000 miles between changes and it is happy. My work truck, a Ford E150 with 180K (bought used with 150K) gets a pint of oil supplement around 3000-3500 miles to bring level up to full, and 6-7000 miles between changes. A pal with a fleet uses AmsOil, changes only the filter at 5000 mile intervals and the oil changes at 25000, he swears by it. I would not be comfortable at the long interval unless it was a $500 beater. It amazes me how folks will go out of their way to get that Amoco Super at a BP for top dollar to help their car run at its peak, yet, will not change the oil once a year. Seems like the same folks that put $3000 in stereo or wheels and neglect the important stuff. What kind of oil you use, synthetic or not, the viscosity of the oil, detergent or not etc..... These are the items, combined with your personal research, that should determine your oil change interval. Listening to an oil company tell you to buy more of their product is just self-serving. In recent years, it has become very important to change your anti-freeze. With the heater core and/or radiator being aluminum, they no longer corrode to the point of leaking, they just build up crud internally and restrict flow, causing no/low heat in the cabin or too much heat for the engine. Makes me wonder........if we all bought brand new cars and followed all recommended maintenance guidelines, would we never have to buy another car again? afterthought......if you don't know when you had your last oil change, do it today! |
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| Good bye | Sep 13 2010, 09:58 PM Post #10 |
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Our company changes oil at 4000 miles or 200 hours. We have over 4000 trucks and this has been studied to death. Seems to be working as we have very few oil related failures. Most of our fleet is navistar based diesel engines. In both Ford and Navistar trucks, for the past 15 years these have had high pressure driven fuel injectors so good oil is important. Personally I change my oil at 5000 miles. 60 mile a day commute and the Metro uses no oil between changes.
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| nerys | Sep 13 2010, 10:50 PM Post #11 |
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You know my van tends to get changed at around 5000 too. I will have to check my logs but when I get a new car after a year of oil changes I decide on the length based on how clean the oil is. The metro is black after 3000-3500 miles so I change it every 3000. The jeep I beat the crap out of so it gets changed every 3k. The Clubwagon I baby like crazy and its oil stays clean past 4000 miles so every 5k or so it gets changed. so when I say every 3k I really mean REGULARLY like clock work. there is some flex in the number. The metro is too precious to me it would get it every 3k no matter how clean the oil came out. It costs me something like $8 or $9 to change the oil and saves me $200-$250 a month in fuel. its worth it. |
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| superduty5.9 | Sep 13 2010, 11:59 PM Post #12 |
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Never too soon to change oil especially if you own stock in oil. With that being said everyone had their own thoughts on this. Grandpa changed it at 3000 so I will too kind of thinking. Oil is so much better these days we can extend the change intervals. A buddy has a 96 Powerstroke he bought new. It now has 310,000 on it. He has always used synthetic of some kind in it from new. He uses Amsoil now and only changes it when the oil analysis recommends to. I think he said he up to like 25,000 or 30,000 miles between changes. He is not easy on this work truck either. In the end you will do as you see fit. |
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| nerys | Sep 14 2010, 09:26 PM Post #13 |
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If you doing an actual oil analysis and it says "its good" then by all means keep using it. I would too :-) |
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| Horn | Sep 14 2010, 09:42 PM Post #14 |
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Since I save about 15 dollars everytime I fill up my tank (comparing that to my old car mpg), I just change my oil once a week. why not........JK. I would like to change my oil at 3k, but realistically its done at 5k or a little more. As long as you don't go like 30k without changing. Knew a girl that put 30k without an oil change in her brand new car. you would think it would run fine, but fro some reason it blew up....never made sense to me. and yea it is cheap to rebuild these motors, but its easier to spend a few minutes on an oil change then a whole day on a rebuild. also most people don't like having their motor go out on the interstate or far away from home. But yea oil change interval changes between cars, oil, and oil filters. So as long as you dont get stupid with it you should be fine. If its the color of death or black it should be changed |
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| Memphis metro | Sep 14 2010, 09:44 PM Post #15 |
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You mean like that texas tea shooting out of the ground on jeds place? |
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