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unconfimred danger; a post about a possible danger when stopping your car.
Topic Started: Oct 3 2010, 08:44 AM (1,571 Views)
haglered
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I got the following email, thought I would pass it on here.... seems like something to consider if you find yourself in such a situaiton.... take it with a grain of salt and as always be aware of your surroundings when you stop your car in a strange place.



This is straight from the Peoria Police Dept. PLEASE PASS IT ON!!

Subject:

While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning,
I saw an infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it. For
whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts
running through my head.But when I got to my destination, I called the
Canton PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police
advised even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of ...gangs and thieves are now plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the
local Police Department where gangs are placing a carseat by the road...with
a fake baby in it...waiting for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this carseat is
usually beside a wooded or grassy field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods,
beaten and raped, and usually left for dead.
If it's a man, they're usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!

DIAL 9-1-1
AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT DON'T EVEN SLOW DOWN.

"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT NIGHT AND EGGS ARE
THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO NOT STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE
WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND
BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 92.5%, AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE
ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO
PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.


THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE
UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones about this. This
is a new tactic used. Please be safe.

Get started NOW -- SEND THIS MESSAGE TO ALL
YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES TO BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO
AS NOT TO BECOME A VICTIM.
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poorman1


:shit http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/carseat.asp
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bogs
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I wouldn't pay too much attention to emails like that. I won't say 100% of them are bs, but 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% are.
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GeoStalker
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Better safe than sorry though.
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Coche Blanco
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tl;dr
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nerys
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The solution to this kind of thing is easy. First use Bug Solution or some other good solution not just the blue stuff if this is a concern in your area.

Second carry a pistol. Be armed. (yes I know not legal everywhere and thats my point it should be!) after a few dozen scumbags get a gut full of lead of a hole in their foreheads you will suddenly see this kind of thing go away.

but this requires EVERYONE do it. (because THEY TO will arm themselves)

And armed society is a polite and more importantly EMPOWERED society.
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I agree with Nerys.
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superduty5.9
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I would have to agree with nerys also.
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Horn


I would somewhat disagree with Nerys. so your pistol vs. 5 gangsters with ak47s???? it could help you or possibly an epic fail. Now sometimes it is worth it to go down shooting, but if they just want the cash or your car is it seriously worth fighting them? hell they can have my $50 or hell even have my geo, my life is worth a lot more than that.
Im not saying to not carry a pistol, my mom used to carry here .357 with her through some bad areas. If its one on one blow there freaking brains out. lol but you gotta know your situation. also if you are in your car just push on the gas pedal and get the hell out of there.
Edited by Horn, Oct 3 2010, 11:52 PM.
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PA.metro,fixer,frames,ect
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i work in a state prison,, sorry nerys, if you told the story, had no high priced lawer, see you inside,,soonas you pull the trigger, all the public thinks of is all the other things you could of done in stead,,,,,,, see every day guys doing time... don't put your life in the judge or jurys hands,, you will not like what they tell you,,, you shoulda done,,, bla bla
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nerys
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the 2nd amendment was partially made to prevent this.

if "I" did it yes your right. but you ignored my post pa fixer and only responded to a subset of it.

I said WE ALL had to do it.

if EVERYONE was armed on their persons daily. SURE the death count would go up initially (we are a stupid society after all) but once a generation passed there would be a rather dramatic DROP in death count as most small to medium crime would simply vanished.

What would happen if you put a trained armed police officer on EVERY street corner and inside EVERY single store?

Tell me pa fixer what would happen? well the ONLY crime left that would happen would be crimes of passion crimes of insanity and "hard" crime (all of these are likely less than 5% of all crime committed)

ie MOST crime would simply CEASE to exist.

Alas this is impossible.

or is it?

que the second amendment.

train and arm all the citizens (this USED to be how it was done you know)

imagine that with the population density we have now? WHO in their right mind would rob a convenience store if the 2 clerks the mom the 3 college students and the guy outside were all "packing" and ready to blow your god damned brains out if you tried to rob that place?

NO ONE in their right mind (note over 98% of LAWFUL instances of a citizen drawing a gun in a crime scenario never result in the gun having to be discharged the mere presence of the weapon is enough to diffuse the situation)

You don't hear the media and government parading around THAT statistic now do you?

ARM the citizens as our constitutions says your NOT ALLOWED TO PREVENT yet we do it anyway and your CRIME issues go away.

but no can't have that for what would we have a need for such a LARGE well armed power hungry police force and government for? See how that works?

Gun Permits? Illegal and unconstitutional
Gun Registration? Illegal and unconstitutional
Gun Restrictions? Illegal and unconstitutional
Carry Permits? Illegal and unconstitutional
Wait Periods? Illegal and unconstitutional (even though I think this is a good idea)

SHALL MAKE NO LAW. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

what is so unclear about this wording? I don't need more thana 5th grade education to be able to say with 100% certaintly and 100% correctness that any court or scotus decision to the contrary is ALSO WRONG ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

The constitution was worded so carefully and simply to prevent JUST these such BS interpretations.
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nerys
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also I would never be IN your prison. in PA open carry is lawful AND use of deadly force when in fear of your life is lawful. I would say an approaching armed group of gang members provides legitimate "fear of life" don't you?

if ONE person did this. They would probable end up dead pretty fast. if EVERYONE did this common crime would virtually vanish inside of this generation.
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PA.metro,fixer,frames,ect
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oh i agree with you,, but i see the other side of,,, good intenchions gone wrong- is very real,,, judges and jurys do not think like you,,,,, and open carry is not the answer either- the cowards shoot you in the back,, they have no morals any ways,,,, just was lettin you and others know--- its better to call 911 ,, walk away unless others to have your back, and can take your side... you would not belive the wrongs i've seen........
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nerys
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and when they shoot me in the back the other citizens near them blow their skulls off.

That is the point people fail to perceive - they have no morals. They know violence. the only true solution to violence is violence once the violence has already begun.

IE once I have decided I am going to kill or harm you the only way to STOP ME is with violence.

thats why arming the populace only works if you do it wholesale like we used to.

if just a few arm then YES they will just shoot you in the back and move on. but if EVERYONE around them is also armed.

again I am not talking a one person solution here. I am talking about a society wide solution.

Most of our crime we have today is a DIRECT RESULT of us stripping the empowerment from our citizens.

open carry was simply one method to counter you assertion for where I live in Pennsylvania that is all it was meant to be.

Most of our crime problems are a result of our attempts to empower police and depower citizens. NOT from the crime itself.

by disarming our citizens we OPEN opportunities for crime. Its that simple.

Police are not the solution. Police are never the solution. its simply not possible for a police officer to assist in every situation. There are not enough of them we would have to make some 10% of our population police officers and still not have enough of them.

911 is not the solution. sure they sometimes "get their" in time but 99% of the time they do not. Most of the time your not even going to have time to DIAL 911 or even get to a phone before the situation is at hand.

How is it any more dangerous for 3 trained neighbors to come up to a home invasion and tell the perpetrator freeze do not move or we will kill you if need be.

than the 3 police officers doing exactly the same thing?

If you have to only worry about out running police running becomes an option. if you have to outrun EVERYONE running is far far less an option now isn't it?

I am not talking vigilante justice here. I am talking about duty bound citizens doing what is right.

if a citizen willy nilly off and kills someone they should be held accountable (not like the police mind you as we all know many (not all of course) of them have very little accountability. They protect themselves quite well.

this is normal. this is what happens when you build a police state and depower the citizenry and try to make them completely dependent on the police for their own defense.

this is great if your trying to take control of the country for your own wants and ego. not so great for the citizens.

Empower citizens requires GIVING UP perceived or actual power from government. That is why the constitution is supposed to be so simply and ironclad.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. not maybe. not sometimes. not if the situation warrants. SHALL NOT ever under any conditions.

yet we do so everyday more and more and we wonder why things get out of hand?

we are animals. we are not operated by pure logic. until we are violence is a fact of life and the only way to deal with violence is with violence until such time as we evolve to no longer need violence. Thats a long time away. very long.
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Just set a spam filter and don't waste your time. This is Soap Opera junk!
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