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Mom gets 1.5 million dolar fine for downloading 24 songs; Crazy
Topic Started: Nov 5 2010, 06:51 AM (4,327 Views)
DesmondGhostRider
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nerys
Nov 10 2010, 09:09 PM
hehehe

I got a new toy.

Wawa PEZ truck !! :-)
aww man dont even talk about wawa to me. You guys have the best subs up there. I go to PA every year for christmas...but this year I have to save the money to move so Im not going to get to stock up on party subs. Wish you could have a sub mailed to you lol.
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isnt wawas a gas station up in the new england area?
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nerys
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no its a convenience store though now some of them are gas stations too and lower ethanol than most so I use them exclusively if I can.

I LOVE the Turkey Sandwich with Cranberry :-) Yummmmmmmmmmmmm :-)
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nerys
Nov 10 2010, 10:32 AM


I also have a core problem with the law since it requires no INTENT to be in violation.

I think this is the most damning of all evidence, what was this woman's intent?

Her intent was to get something for free that is offered for sale. To obtain a product without paying for it.


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nerys
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so goto jail for listening to the radio. Why won't you see that its precisely the same thing just a different medium.

you going to surrender to the police or RIAA when you listen to a CD your friend has playing when you visit? you did not pay for it. You going to pay the performance royalty? you going to turn your friend in if he does not pay the performance royalty?

you realize the labels WANT to make it illegal for you to have friends over to watch a movie on your giant screen right? they would LOVE to make each viewer pay for the DVD or CD but they won't go their..... yet...

the product is a CD with the music on it. all she got was the music. Just like you did on the radio.

File Sharing is not even considered MORALLY wrong by most people not to speak of LEGALLY wrong.

a massive portion of the population actually sees nothing wrong with it (HENCE why the RIAA wants giant damage cases like this to try and EDUCATE the people that this is illegal by getting big media attention)
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Ryan
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Can we just drop it and move on?
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superduty5.9
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Ryan as long as we are having a civil discussion on a particular subject why should we stop? The bible thread is like 60 pages long :smackface :smackface . As long as someone has something to say! :cheers :cheers

As far as listening for free on the radio or downloading for free the same song it's still the same. Look at it this way, if a girl comes on to you and offers some sex or if you come on to her and she gives you some sex, you still got some sex just in a different manner. You're happy and she's happy so what is the problem? :wub:
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superduty5.9
Nov 11 2010, 11:09 AM
Ryan as long as we are having a civil discussion on a particular subject why should we stop? The bible thread is like 60 pages long :smackface :smackface . As long as someone has something to say! :cheers :cheers

As far as listening for free on the radio or downloading for free the same song it's still the same. Look at it this way, if a girl comes on to you and offers some sex or if you come on to her and she gives you some sex, you still got some sex just in a different manner. You're happy and she's happy so what is the problem? :wub:
Unless someone has too much time on his/her hands, I don't know why someone can incessantly post (argumentatively) on this topic -- or any topic. I am a very busy person (like most of you) and I have more things to worry about to the point I'm not going to sit on the Forum and argue my point over and over just to try to prove someone wrong.

I read the article regarding this woman. I drew my own conclusion. I moved on. That's it.

However, I'm always up for talking about sex.
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nerys
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well I do enjoy being argumentative. Its mentally stimulating and can get quite invigorating especially when talking to others who also enjoy intelligent arguments.

You don't prove someone wrong by arguing your point over and over.

you prove someone wrong by proving "something else" right and that something else "excludes" what they are trying to prove in essence proving it wrong.

I will never EVER understand the dissent against these kind of threads. Let me articulate it for you more clearly :-)

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this is just the first 5 topics in the "new posts" page. I was interested in the 2nd 3rd and 4th topics so I middle clicked those (opens them in new tabs in firefox) I had no interest in topics 1 and 5 any more so I ignored those.

so when your going through the topics WHY did you click on this one if you not interested in it?

ahh thats because YOU ARE interested but your not interested in a discussion so much as "submission" or something similar but you pretend your not interested ALAS the fact that you even clicked the topic belies that assumption.

you have pre decided your opinion is the correct one and all others are wrong regardless of the facts otherwise you would simply have stop visiting this thread?

I guess there could be other reasons but I just took a wild stab at the most likely reason.

clearly YOU have enough "time" on "his/her hands" to come back to this thread and incessantly post on the topic. Your obvious not so busy as to simply ignore the thread that so bothers you :-)

Go worry about the other things you have to worry about.

clearly you don't since you ARE HERE arguing a point on this very forum :-)

if you had moved on you would not have been around to type that message.

some of us ENJOY argumentative discussions (again as long as they stay civil) ITS FUN for some of us.

its also how things get changed. if no one every discussed it no change would EVER have a chance of happening.

Discussing does not guarantee change but NOT discussing it guarantees NO CHANGE (at least not change thats any good for US thats for sure)

SO if you enjoy the argumentative nature of these kinds of discussions stick around. if you don't stop visiting or at least stop posting WHINING about others posting :-) hehe

the reason political/religious discussions tend to get shut down or frowned upon is NOT because of the subject matter.

its because of how closed minded people (NOT saying you are close minded) devolve the conversation to a simple "brawl" instead of a discussion.

try starting a "glue thread" on a rocketry forum or a chevy/ford thread on a chevy/ford forum. same thing.

Religion and Politics however are CRITICAL discussions. they have a DIRECT effect on the very ability of people to enjoy their lives. alas people can be very "one sided" and when they don't get their way they trash the conversation for others.
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Like I said, nerys, too much time on your hands.
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nerys
Nov 11 2010, 12:40 PM
Its stimulating when talking to others
:lol you get stimulation from this website.
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You know what I do in my free time after I get out of work, nerys? I go to the gym and work out for a couple hours. It's very stimulating.
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Ryan
Nov 11 2010, 01:06 PM
You know what I do in my free time after I get out of work, nerys? I go to the gym and work out for a couple hours. It's very stimulating.
I usually try to find a hot chick that always works too.....
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Nerys, your argument on listening to the radio is invalid, when you pay for a song, you're paying for it so you can listen to it when you please. youtube is betoken of this, There are many music videos, and I can listen to them, so long as I'm on youtube. Once I'm off i can't listen to it when i want because it's not mine to listen to. When you listen to the radio it's the exact same thing. You buy the song you can play it when you want, because you purchased it. I can go to boomers, and ride their go-karts as much as i want, at their discretion on their property, but if i want to use it anytime i want, at my house, at a park, I've got to buy my own go-kart.
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I do admit that I have too much time on my hands. I'm unemployed at this time. But I do like a good civil discussion. I made my decision when I first read it too but discussing my point will hopefully change others minds by backing it up with proof. Just sayin.
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