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Cheap HP
Topic Started: Nov 7 2010, 04:40 PM (3,311 Views)
rmcelwee
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Bad Bent
Nov 8 2010, 07:24 PM
:lol horn.

I understand. :-/ From the looks of it the CONAIR Pro Style 1600 has both the blue switch for cold air and red for hot air. 'Blue for cold' means denser cold air will give you more "power" and 'red for hot air' will give you better FE. The 1600 must be a very advanced model to have such a big number. ;) ;)

Kitty is a very good model. :thumb
Yes, Kitty is very good but not looking too happy here:

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Coche Blanco
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Well this is officially awkward.
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compjake
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speaking of cheap HP, electronic turbos... With the correct electric motor and turbine wouldn't it be possible to actually build a electric turbo that did increase hp? Sounds lame, but can you picture 30min to go from NA to trubo lol
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nerys
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sure if you ran the electric motor on an isolated battery pack. but it would be very very inefficient. you would get much bigger boost by putting that electric motors power to the wheels.
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There are effective electric turbos, but they're expensive, usable only in short bursts, and require two extra batteries to power them. NOS would be simpler.
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That's pretty much what I figured. I'm surprised with how technology progresses so fast no one has created an electric motor that can spin 50,000 rpm and use low amperage at 12V.

We can land on the moon, why cant we make a cheap functional electric turbo for a geo metro lol
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nerys
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you don't need to spin 50k. just connect the electric motor via belt to your AC pulley channel. IE apply the power DIRECTLY to the spinning engine.

now you only need what 1500 rpm ?? (how fast is the pully spinning?) you just need torque.

put 3 or 4 batters in the boot and now you will have more power and better fuel economy.
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iplaybass
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well the old 280 z by Nissan has an electric turbo on them i got one out of one at a bone yard to use in my low rider but i never put it in.... after i put my head gasket on and get an idea of how much mpgs i get i might put it on the geo .... lol my turbo geo
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iplaybass
Nov 14 2010, 02:12 PM
well the old 280 z by Nissan has an electric turbo on them
No it didn't, the previous owner got roped in by a con man too.

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nerys
Nov 11 2010, 07:36 AM
you don't need to spin 50k. just connect the electric motor via belt to your AC pulley channel. IE apply the power DIRECTLY to the spinning engine.

now you only need what 1500 rpm ?? (how fast is the pully spinning?) you just need torque.

put 3 or 4 batters in the boot and now you will have more power and better fuel economy.
I'm not sure how that would work..

My idea was to take a regular turbo, remove the exhaust side and mount a high speed electric motor to the exhaust shaft then attach the intake side of the turbo to the intake of the engine.. create some kind of controller that will raise the voltage to the motor for the higher engine RPM to increase the amount of boost.
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because its not efficient. your spinning a motor to move air to make the engine work harder. instead put the electric motor DIRECTLY to work spinning the engine. Then you only need to spin as fast as the engine spins (and you can adjust pulley size to play with this as well) IE get a nice 2000rpm high torque electric motor.

better fuel economy - more power - lower wear and tear on your engine since the eletric motor will be taking some of that load.
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Ohh, okay. I see where your going but the problem is a motor big enough to do that would cost more than a small motor for my idea plus a motor that large uses many more amps, plus if you go that way you still don't have a turbo geo lol
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nerys
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ah YOU need an even bigger motor to move any kind of CFM at 50,000 RPM

you don't need a huge motor. even a 1-2 hp electric motor is going to add oodles of power :-)
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hmm. After I get some basic parts replaced I'll look into designing something. I'll look into both options and see what I can come up with :)
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iplaybass
Nov 14 2010, 02:12 PM
well the old 280 z by Nissan has an electric turbo on them i got one out of one at a bone yard to use in my low rider but i never put it in.... after i put my head gasket on and get an idea of how much mpgs i get i might put it on the geo .... lol my turbo geo
The electric turbo you are referring to is a little blower motor that was used to cool down the injectors and was only on the ZX models. When I was picking up a donor turbo ZX to swap into my 280z, the guy I was getting it for that that little plastic motor was the turbo. He said that it stopped working so it was time to get rid of it. Ya I told him no... the turbo runs off the exhaust manifold and pointed to the real turbo. Good thing the car got away from him when it did. Now I have a 1976 280z turbo! and my geo of course :D
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