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Adding/changin rear set for 3 people??
Topic Started: Dec 9 2010, 10:40 AM (2,686 Views)
superduty5.9
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I don't care much for belts or bags. Cars years ago didn't have them. Child car seats are also fairly new. I don't usually wear a belt. It is wrong for it to be illegal for me to have to use a belt. Motorcycles don't have them! Here in Ohio you don't even have to wear a helmet if you are 21 and over. I was in an accident years ago and wasn't wearing a seatbelt. I was ejected and that save my life. I was still ticketed for not wearing a belt even after the officer said if I had been wearing it I would have been killed!
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nerys
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Grr

I agree with you but for different reasons. seat belt laws have nothing to do with safety. its 100% about elimination of probable cause in the car. Otherwise they would not have changed it from a secondary to a primary offense.

PA actually does helment laws RIGHT. the first year you have your license your required to wear a helmet. after that its optional.

I am 100% kosher with this because that law IS about safety. 90% of incidents on motorcycles happen in the first 6 months a cyclist gets their license. IE when they are new and inexperienced.

this law is perfect.

seat belt laws serve only to violate the constitution.
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yoshiki2
Dec 9 2010, 10:40 AM
can you add a seat belt? Or replace the rear seats? (3 cyl metro)
I just went out and measured the Wife's '96 and it is 48" across the rear seat.

I see no reason why you could not snake an extra set of seat belts in the slots of the inner two belts and bolt them to the same mounts as the OEM belts. :thumb

That said, you will need to make a sign that says "You must have a butt no wider than 16" for three of you to fit in the back seat"

You can cite OSHA and DOT safety regulations for that sign. Might want to charge extra for anyone over 16" wide. Make them store their extra luggage in the rear hatch. Tell them to count their blessings that you don't work for the Transportation Security Administration, and stop whining, it's a free ride.
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jrdbarnhart
Dec 15 2010, 08:23 AM
Having completely totaled a car by flipping through the air at least fifty feet then landing hard enough to roll the car multiple times to destroy every side of it and break the seat and the axles.
Want to describe what happened to cause said wreck?
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superduty5.9
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Nerys you are correct seat belt laws are not for safety!
Edited by superduty5.9, Dec 16 2010, 12:16 AM.
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Pls... Not again with this debate!! :die

can we keep it on topic pls :)
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keep in mind that your gross payload is not very large, maybe about 750 lbs. check inside your drivers door frame for payload for your car.
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I'm a nurse at a local hospital and I've seen MANY traumas come in in the form of MVAs (motor vehicle accident). You can always tell the ones that had the seatbelt on and those who didn't. The ones who didn't have a seatbelt on usually were lying on a gurney in a puddle of blood waiting for the coroner to pick them up. The ones who wore seatbelts mostly have seatbelt trauma, with some lacerations from broken glass and loose objects in the car. We've also witnessed where one restrained passenger was killed by the body of an unrestrained driver. I've also seen many motorcycle and ATV traumas come in. Enough to know that helmets DO WORK. When you see a 15 year old kid being zipped up in a vail bed because their brain got over-stimulated (can you say RANCHO scale? ), you won't want to ride without one.

Say what you want about the government, but one trauma night in the ER will change what you think about seat belts and helmets. Even the drunk ones aren't so lucky sometimes.
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Jun 30 2011, 10:54 PM
I'm a nurse at a local hospital and I've seen MANY traumas come in in the form of MVAs (motor vehicle accident). You can always tell the ones that had the seatbelt on and those who didn't. The ones who didn't have a seatbelt on usually were lying on a gurney in a puddle of blood waiting for the coroner to pick them up. The ones who wore seatbelts mostly have seatbelt trauma, with some lacerations from broken glass and loose objects in the car. We've also witnessed where one restrained passenger was killed by the body of an unrestrained driver. I've also seen many motorcycle and ATV traumas come in. Enough to know that helmets DO WORK. When you see a 15 year old kid being zipped up in a vail bed because their brain got over-stimulated (can you say RANCHO scale? ), you won't want to ride without one.

Say what you want about the government, but one trauma night in the ER will change what you think about seat belts and helmets. Even the drunk ones aren't so lucky sometimes.
If we had seat belts in the 1950's my mom would not
have been killed in a car accident and my little brother
wouldn't have broken his neck.

A Highway Patrolman in California told me once that
he'd never unbuckled a dead person.
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Jul 5 2011, 04:35 PM
wizard93
Jun 30 2011, 10:54 PM
I'm a nurse at a local hospital and I've seen MANY traumas come in in the form of MVAs (motor vehicle accident). You can always tell the ones that had the seatbelt on and those who didn't. The ones who didn't have a seatbelt on usually were lying on a gurney in a puddle of blood waiting for the coroner to pick them up. The ones who wore seatbelts mostly have seatbelt trauma, with some lacerations from broken glass and loose objects in the car. We've also witnessed where one restrained passenger was killed by the body of an unrestrained driver. I've also seen many motorcycle and ATV traumas come in. Enough to know that helmets DO WORK. When you see a 15 year old kid being zipped up in a vail bed because their brain got over-stimulated (can you say RANCHO scale? ), you won't want to ride without one.

Say what you want about the government, but one trauma night in the ER will change what you think about seat belts and helmets. Even the drunk ones aren't so lucky sometimes.
If we had seat belts in the 1950's my mom would not
have been killed in a car accident and my little brother
wouldn't have broken his neck.

A Highway Patrolman in California told me once that
he'd never unbuckled a dead person.
My point exactly.
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The Libertarian side of me says both seatbelt and helmet laws are unnecessary.

The humanitarian side of me says we should all be traveling in vehicles a safe as possible.

For the record, 'getting thrown clear' is the top lamest, 1 out of 10,000 reasons I've ever heard. It's like saying if I run off the road I might crash into a pile of marsh mellows, which is more like 1 out of 5,000 lol. The racer side of me says we should be driving vehicles with 10pt roll cages, 5pt SFI approved 3" belt harnesses, race seats, neck collar or HANS device, helmet, fire resistant jacket, pants, shoes and gloves, my entire race get-up... but that's not practical.

When I first started driving, I had a motorcycle, neither helmets nor seat belts were mandatory, but I chose to wear both. Mostly because I had been around racing since age 6, and secondly because I had bounced off the steel dash of a '64 Dodge power wagon (PU truck) when I was about 15. My knee that dented the dash of the Dodge truck, still isn't 100% 35yrs later.

My politics of Personal Safety Options/Choices aside for a moment, I have added third seatbelts to the rear of cars only equipped for two from the factory. I would never allow my kids to double up or go unbelted, my choice FOR my underage kids. It's a great idea for little kids in particular. However, if you do this, know that.. (and I HATE this...) if something serious ever happened to someone in that added belt, and a lawyer found out you added a seat during a lawsuit investigation, you'd be totally screwed on several fronts!
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Isn't the maximum weight capacity like 700 lbs.?
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im looking on doing this, Anyone ever figure it out?
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I am the one on the left.

yeah- go to salvage yard- find a car with a center seat belt. Unbolt it from the donor- use the two mounting points in your metro for the two rear belts and put one side on one, one on the other, feed it through the exhisting holes in the seat, and voila' a center seat buckle- great for small kids, or putting your rear facing car seat in the center of the car.
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