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A.S.E. cert questions
Topic Started: Jan 13 2011, 02:25 AM (2,669 Views)
geojames
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rice

i was looking at the ase test website and it says you have to be working in the automotive field for two years before you can get the certication is this correct? or did i misunderstand ? :ermm:
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yea either 2 years of work experience or 1 year of school and 1 year of work (plus tests). I'm pretty sure thats how it is.
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Your not likely to pass the test without the working knowledge anyway. There used to be a book company that made a ase certification preperation study book. It had questions like you would find on the ase test. It can help you to know how much you really know.
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yea Idk if you have ever seen the questions, but they can be tricky.
enginedoc you also gotta remember there are 7 tests or so. there might be a few he could know about. From talking to people who really work on cars (and know their shit) they say screw them tests. My uncle has been working for jeep for 20 years and now working for kia, he use to be ase certified bu they expired. The company wouldn't pay for the tests so he said screw it. (he also was the lead mechanic)
It didn't hurt him one bit because being mechanic all comes down to experience and learning how to diagnose.
You can be crazy book smart and pass those tests but it won't matter if you suck at working on cars. Once you are proficient you can get paid by the job you do, instead of by the hour.
Now im not trying to bash ase at all, if you have lots of experience and know how the tests are than go for it, but being ase certified isn't everything.
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Truckdriver09
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horn12007
Jan 13 2011, 01:38 PM
yea Idk if you have ever seen the questions, but they can be tricky.
enginedoc you also gotta remember there are 7 tests or so. there might be a few he could know about. From talking to people who really work on cars (and know their shit) they say screw them tests. My uncle has been working for jeep for 20 years and now working for kia, he use to be ase certified bu they expired. The company wouldn't pay for the tests so he said screw it. (he also was the lead mechanic)
It didn't hurt him one bit because being mechanic all comes down to experience and learning how to diagnose.
You can be crazy book smart and pass those tests but it won't matter if you suck at working on cars. Once you are proficient you can get paid by the job you do, instead of by the hour.
Now im not trying to bash ase at all, if you have lots of experience and know how the tests are than go for it, but being ase certified isn't everything.
The same goes with a college degree. Maybe every 1 out of 10 people that I know actually has a job that pertains to their degree. The rest just use the degree on their resume when applying for jobs. Employers just like seeing that certification/degree.
Edited by Truckdriver09, Jan 13 2011, 03:01 PM.
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wonder ho long it will take me to become master certified from nothing :D
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Truckdriver09
Jan 13 2011, 02:59 PM
horn12007
Jan 13 2011, 01:38 PM
yea Idk if you have ever seen the questions, but they can be tricky.
enginedoc you also gotta remember there are 7 tests or so. there might be a few he could know about. From talking to people who really work on cars (and know their shit) they say screw them tests. My uncle has been working for jeep for 20 years and now working for kia, he use to be ase certified bu they expired. The company wouldn't pay for the tests so he said screw it. (he also was the lead mechanic)
It didn't hurt him one bit because being mechanic all comes down to experience and learning how to diagnose.
You can be crazy book smart and pass those tests but it won't matter if you suck at working on cars. Once you are proficient you can get paid by the job you do, instead of by the hour.
Now im not trying to bash ase at all, if you have lots of experience and know how the tests are than go for it, but being ase certified isn't everything.
The same goes with a college degree. Maybe every 1 out of 10 people that I know actually has a job that pertains to their degree. The rest just use the degree on their resume when applying for jobs. Employers just like seeing that certification/degree.
You mean like this current job opening,

http://www.cwsonline.org/oea/jobSpecs.aspx?selected=1036


ASE Certification does prove that a person knows something about automotive repair. These test will not be passed by someone without a very good knowledge of automotive repairs. Just like a nurse I suppose, there are lpns and rns. There is a differance. Now days most employers are seeking ase certified mechanics if they can find them. It tells them they atleast sought out to be certified in their profession and are not just a shade tree. Only after they see the mans work are they going to know for sure what kind of a mechanic he really is.
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geojames
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rice

i agree that the work you do is important but getting a job at a garage without the certification is about impossible its a no win they wont hire if you don't got it and you can't git it if you don't have the job so how do i get past this barrier any suggestions?
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geojames
Jan 13 2011, 03:59 PM
i agree that the work you do is important but getting a job at a garage without the certification is about impossible its a no win they wont hire if you don't got it and you can't git it if you don't have the job so how do i get past this barrier any suggestions?
Truth is, a person has to start at the bottom. There are people who pay cheap and therefore do not have to require training because they know for the pay they are paying they cannot hire a professional. My first real job turning wrenches paid 7 dollars per hr. It was a stepping stone of which I used to move up. Actually my first real wrenching job like many others here was in the military. The 7 dollar a hr job was after discharge from the military. The military is where many start.
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Sir, yes sir!

check your local labor laws too. In california if you provide your own tools for work you have to be paid at least a base salary. Last I heard it was $12 an hour for that. The company I worked for got a class action lawsuit in regards to it as they were in violation of state law. Didn't apply to management even though I had my tools there and used them to work on cars when we were busy.

Well, I did make more than $12 an hour... much more. So I shouldn't be bitching.
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enginedoctorgeo
Jan 13 2011, 03:05 PM
Truckdriver09
Jan 13 2011, 02:59 PM
horn12007
Jan 13 2011, 01:38 PM
yea Idk if you have ever seen the questions, but they can be tricky.
enginedoc you also gotta remember there are 7 tests or so. there might be a few he could know about. From talking to people who really work on cars (and know their shit) they say screw them tests. My uncle has been working for jeep for 20 years and now working for kia, he use to be ase certified bu they expired. The company wouldn't pay for the tests so he said screw it. (he also was the lead mechanic)
It didn't hurt him one bit because being mechanic all comes down to experience and learning how to diagnose.
You can be crazy book smart and pass those tests but it won't matter if you suck at working on cars. Once you are proficient you can get paid by the job you do, instead of by the hour.
Now im not trying to bash ase at all, if you have lots of experience and know how the tests are than go for it, but being ase certified isn't everything.
The same goes with a college degree. Maybe every 1 out of 10 people that I know actually has a job that pertains to their degree. The rest just use the degree on their resume when applying for jobs. Employers just like seeing that certification/degree.
You mean like this current job opening,

http://www.cwsonline.org/oea/jobSpecs.aspx?selected=1036


ASE Certification does prove that a person knows something about automotive repair. These test will not be passed by someone without a very good knowledge of automotive repairs. Just like a nurse I suppose, there are lpns and rns. There is a differance. Now days most employers are seeking ase certified mechanics if they can find them. It tells them they atleast sought out to be certified in their profession and are not just a shade tree. Only after they see the mans work are they going to know for sure what kind of a mechanic he really is.
I'm sorry if I came off wrong. I didn't mean to say that an ASE certification is worthless. I'm just saying that there are several excellent mechanics who have never had a certification...which is fine if you don't ever plan to work for a professional shop or dealership.
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You didnt come off wrong. I understood.
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Technician A should really just kill Technician B because im tired of settling their debates.

yes 2 years in the feild. plus the test

Do not be late for the Examination... they Will Not let you in, make shure you eat, smoke, take care of business before going in because once they shut the doors. they wont let you out till your done with the test.


but let me tell you this.. you may know your stuff and you may have that piece of paper... but you get paid the same as the guy starting with ya who dosen't have that piece of paper.

i have 3 of them

ASE
I-car Platinum Individual
And a Diploma from Wyotech

all in Collision Repair.

wanna take a guess what i make an hour??? your local cashier at Walmart makes more than I do.

that doesn't say you WILL get paid :shit .... It says you CAN get paid :shit

and i work for the largest, and best Repair center in Rockbridge County.... we are pro certified with 5 insurance companies, ASE Blue Ribbon certified... and our Master Tech/ Estimator is an I-car instructor as well. we STAY bussy... my boss is just too interested in his muscle cars, and his 62" flat screen to see that his employees are starving.

but its ok... im talking to others about opportunities
Edited by Potter, Jan 13 2011, 07:26 PM.
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"technician a should really just kill technician b because im tired of settling their debates" :rocker
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I had 4 of them and to be honest it did not get me a raise when I received them. Sure the Manager gives you that same old bull about how you need to get them but they don't reward you for that. You want to know how you get more money. Learn the term "FLAT RATE IT". Every old school , down on their hands and knees, brake cleaner huffing mechanic knows it and if you want to make money in the buisness you need to also ^o) .
As far as the ASE is concerned you should have them under your belt if you intend to go for your Smog licensce, if not you can get them once and just let them expire because they are expensive (that's what most of the guys I know did)
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