Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Posted ImageWelcome to the all new Geo Metro Forum. We hope you enjoy your visit.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are features you can't use and images you can't see. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Join our community!




Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Texting While Driving in San Antonio, Tx; New Law
Topic Started: Jan 16 2011, 11:48 AM (6,127 Views)
iamgeo
Member Avatar
Big League

2a on both counts. Thanks for proving my point.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
944door
Member Avatar


CityConnection
Jan 20 2011, 03:30 AM
"Who does #2 work for?"

"That's right, buddy. You tell that turd who's boss!"
Careful man your gonna blow an o ring :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
nerys
Member Avatar
Grr

Exactly. 2a. requiring something you don't have.

3 for require.

you require oxygen. someone suffocating NEEDS oxygen. we all "require" oxygen.

you require food. someone starving NEEDS food.

Need. a requirement you do not have.

Require. something you must have.

if you don't have it you require and need it. if you have it you just require it.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Horn


nerys
Jan 20 2011, 12:03 PM
Exactly. 2a. requiring something you don't have.

3 for require.

you require oxygen. someone suffocating NEEDS oxygen. we all "require" oxygen.

you require food. someone starving NEEDS food.

Need. a requirement you do not have.

Require. something you must have.

if you don't have it you require and need it. if you have it you just require it.
you were only allowed to pick one number. you picked 2(a) and 3......looks like you lose nerys. Do you really argue like this in real life with random people?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
yiffzer
Forgot His Manpurse

There are a few ways to use the word 'require'. However according to a Google search, 'require' and 'need', when used in the same context, means the same.
Edited by yiffzer, Jan 20 2011, 12:16 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Horn


yiffzer
Jan 20 2011, 12:15 PM
There are a few ways to use the word 'require'. However according to a Google search, 'require' and 'need', when used in the same context, means the same.
don't worry i'm sure that will be argued against, because that was just a google seach.

( I agree with you though)

I'm not saying they are 100% the same, but most people use them or would use them in the same context. I could really care less what a definition says about a word. If everyone says it a different way than the definition says, I will agree with the people.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
nerys
Member Avatar
Grr

and I have no problem with that. I was not the one who started the "nitpicking" on word definitions. Reread the thread :-) hehe

the way I see it is this simple and logical.

you get a flat tire. you NEED a new tire.

you get a new tire and install it.

Do you still need a new tire now? answer that and you have your answer.

seems pretty simple to me.
Edited by nerys, Jan 20 2011, 01:57 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Horn


yes you still need the tire. you have to have it. You need it whether you have it or not.

and when it came to nitpicking I was just giving you shit...yet you couldn't let it go.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Horn


have you ever had something that someone asked if they could have it?
Jim: Can I have your ratchet steve?
steve: No, I need it.
Even though steve has it, he still needs it.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Coche Blanco
Member Avatar
Troll Certified

Semantics.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
nerys
Member Avatar
Grr

thats context. the context is different. Your also twisting the meaning. he requires the ratchet if he were to give it to you he would then "need" it hence the statement. No I still need it.

the use of need here is not unto itself empty in a vacuum. also need is also technically correct if he has not "performed" the task yet.

he still needs to "fix" something so the need is actually what he needs to do not so much the ratchet.

yes coche this example IS semantics.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Horn


he would need it whether he gives it up or not. and how do you know he was going to "fix" something? maybe he was just taking it apart.....lol. I still disagree with you, but lets both agree to disagree.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
yiffzer
Forgot His Manpurse

You need, in the sense of it being necessary, new tires. You obtain these tires. So, do you still need new tires? I think the question of asking whether you need /new/ tires is misleading. You don't need specifically /new/ tires but you still do need, in the sense of it being necessary, tires regardless.

You need, in the sense of it being necessary, the ratchet. You may still have it in your hands so do you need it anymore? The answer is yes because it is necessary to complete your task. You will need the ratchet regardless of whether you have it or not simply because having a ratchet is a necessary tool to complete this task.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Horn


yiffzer
Jan 20 2011, 03:35 PM
You need, in the sense of it being necessary, new tires. You obtain these tires. So, do you still need new tires? I think the question of asking whether you need /new/ tires is misleading. You don't need specifically /new/ tires but you still do need, in the sense of it being necessary, tires regardless.

You need, in the sense of it being necessary, the ratchet. You may still have it in your hands so do you need it anymore? The answer is yes because it is necessary to complete your task. You will need the ratchet regardless of whether you have it or not simply because having a ratchet is a necessary tool to complete this task.
:gp
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
nerys
Member Avatar
Grr

horn12007
Jan 20 2011, 12:10 PM
nerys
Jan 20 2011, 12:03 PM
Exactly. 2a. requiring something you don't have.

3 for require.

you require oxygen. someone suffocating NEEDS oxygen. we all "require" oxygen.

you require food. someone starving NEEDS food.

Need. a requirement you do not have.

Require. something you must have.

if you don't have it you require and need it. if you have it you just require it.
you were only allowed to pick one number. you picked 2(a) and 3......looks like you lose nerys. Do you really argue like this in real life with random people?
ahh hellow I picked ONE and ONLY ONE.

ONE for Need and ONE for require as instructed.

there are 2 words present or did you forget?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · The Geo Metro Lounge · Next Topic »
Add Reply