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Car overheated Serious, now Starting a rebuild and advice please!
Topic Started: May 10 2011, 02:23 PM (1,133 Views)
exxonham
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Hey guys bought 93 geo 4dr with roughly 190K car was running fine but over worked her this weekend driveing all day delivering flowers and pizza but idk,, anyway, car was getting hot but I thought my temop guage was broken so disregarded the temp gauge saying it was hot,, drove for few hours, car started to smoke bad out tail pipe, white smoke and some under the hood. When I checked coolant none was in ther got some water in there, drove some more and just keeped on leaking from not sure where. so drove little more and water ran out again and coolant res was bubling or gurliging which points to blown head gasket. So broke it all down, head at machine shop, but the gasket wasent blown but exhuast valves look bad along with pistens looked shot ofr cratored with soot,

from the pictures let me know what yall think and what I should do next trying to save as much $ as I can

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So what yall think got a quote of complete rebuild with entire engine gasket set and includes head rebuild and valve pistens and pisten rings for $380

That sound about right dident want to have to do all this but oh well
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Johnny Mullet
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If that includes labor, then jump on it! I charge around $500 for labor alone on a complete rebuild including re-ringing piston.
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Yup! Some sort of repair/overhaul is in the cards.

Very important. Find out what your coolant issue is. New engines release smoke, too.
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snowfish
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Sounds like a Really Good Deal! Maybe too good..... :hmm

New clutch, hoses, & radiator would be a wise choice too.
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exxonham
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Johnny Mullet
May 10 2011, 02:35 PM
If that includes labor, then jump on it! I charge around $500 for labor alone on a complete rebuild including re-ringing piston.
Ill be doing all the labor including the rings, but the 380 was parts and head rebuild which was 150 so that isent that bad, id rebuild the head but dont have machine shop and not quite that advanced yet but getting there lol
Thanks
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exxonham
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snowfish
May 10 2011, 02:42 PM
Sounds like a Really Good Deal! Maybe too good..... :hmm

New clutch, hoses, & radiator would be a wise choice too.
Ya ill be getting new raditor around 50 and new hoses but really dident really know where all the coolant was leaking some maybe was from the radiator which was patched before, but all the symptoms were pointing straight to head gaskeet, but wasent blown ughhh but pistins looked shot so just goin to rebuild lol
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exxonham
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Alright just pulled the pistens here they are.... what yall think
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Sounds like you're halfway to an overhaul. Want to try it yourself?
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CHECK FOR A CRACKED BLOCK OR HEAD FIRST. ---- you said it smoked WHITE for a while. White smoke out the exhaust pipe is an indication of water getting into the combustion chamber. Only way for that to happen is either a blown head gasket, a cracked block between the water jacket to combustion chamber or a cracked head between the water jacket to combustion chamber.-----you also said the coolant in the overflow was "gurgling" which points to the above also------Dont spend monies to overhaul a cracked head or block

Edit: First time thru I missed the part where you said "no coolant so I added water"---------------no, no, no---never add water to a hot aluminum block or head automobile--you usually end up with a cracked block or head or blown head gasket
Edited by Old Man, May 10 2011, 06:10 PM.
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wizard93
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If you got pics of the piston skirts and the bearings, that would tell a little more about it. The tops of the pistons should clean up with a wire wheel. If you just don't want to waste too much time on the pistons, go with this rebuild kit.

That kit should have everything you need for the engine. Just get the new pistons put on the old rods at the shop where you're having your head done.

P.S. :+1 to what Old Man said. Aluminum doesn't lend itself well to thermal abuse. :D
Edited by wizard93, May 10 2011, 05:02 PM.
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exxonham
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Hey whats up guys sorrry for the delay but all parts are in now for a complete Engine rebuild, Head bebuilkt for 150 and about 400 total for everything and Im doing it all myself will post pics later wish me luck lol
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starscream5000
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Got 70 MPG?

Sooo... Was the head and blocked checked first to make sure they weren't junk?

You may have just wasted $150...
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exxonham
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Adding pics now, got pistins in with oild pan seal and anyone know the torque spec to the rod bearings?
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mcmancuso
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Torque specs are posted here on the forum somewhere :P its in a sticky Oh, and don't use an oil pan gasket, just RTV.
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Duct tape heals all wounds

The thread referred to is located -> http://geometroforum.com/topic/1009792/1/
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