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SOLVED! Took my carpet out, now the car won't start?
Topic Started: May 11 2011, 01:13 PM (1,593 Views)
rmcelwee
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I pulled the seats and carpet out this morning. With the seats out I tried to start the car - it wouldn't start. I thought it could be the switches on the bottom of the seats (maybe Geo doesn't want you to start the car if you don't have your belt on) so I put the seats back in and connected the harness to the bottom of them - it wouldn't start. Called my wife out to help and the car started and ran for a second with a squirt of starter fluid. So, I'm assuming I do not have the fuel pump running. I could be that I yanked a wire out while pulling the carpet (could have grabbed something while pulling it out on the drivers side under the dash). Anyone know how to jump the fuel pump so it will run or have any other tips for me?

Also, I'm assuming I can leave the seat harness on both sides disconnected. Is this true? My seat belt light is ALWAYS on and I figure that unhooking this will fix it.



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OK, I continued working a bit on something else so I could clear my head and revisit the problem. When I came back I started looking under the dash and found nothing at all wrong. I started looking around the rest of the car and noticed that there was a butt connector sticking out from under the back seat with a wire only attached to one side. At some point the PO cut the wiring harness a few inches away from a molex connector and respliced it together. When I lifted the seat to pull the rear carpet from under it I disconnected the HORRIBLY spliced wires. I used a small wire with alligator clips on it to test that the car would run when connected (it did) and started to disconnect the molex connector. When I did the other HORRIBLY spliced wire fell apart too.

FWIW, the seat wiring (seat belt switch) does not have to be connected to make the car run. I now see that the light I have had always on the dash is the pax seat belt switch (didn't know there were separate drivers side and pax side lights on the dash).
Edited by rmcelwee, May 11 2011, 02:45 PM.
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rmcelwee
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OOPS, it is a 94 Geo Metro LSI
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starscream5000
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Got 70 MPG?

The wires should be in plain sight now without the carpet, inspect the wires for any damage. Can you hear the pump prime when turning the key to the on position?

Check your fuses as well.
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Rang-a-Stang
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Schmuck

the fuel pump wiring is under the back seat on the passenger side. it comes in from the side of the car, is taped to the floor, goes through the connector and down through a rubber grommet directly under the back seat on the passenger side.
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dayle1960
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Fastest Hampster EVER

My vote is the pump relay fuse. While you were yanking on the carpet you probably hit the fuse box an dislodged the fuse from the fuse box. No way are the seat wires related to your no start issue. I yanked the seats out of my 92 and threw in a milk crate to sit on. It fired right up. Maybe check wiring going to fuel pump. You could have jerked it loose. Keep us informed on this issue. Your results could help someone else.
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snowfish
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Basic GearHead

Same deal with my seat belt lights. Always on. Tried with the connector unplugged. Still on. Tried jumping the leads. Still on. Didn't feel like fiddling around :gamerz so I pulled the lamps out of the cluster. Needed them for other places anyway.

Now there are No Lights telling me that my seat belts are not on. Or if the door is open either. (no lights in the sockets) B-)

I think I know if my belt is on, or the door is open, without a light telling me. :thumb
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rmcelwee
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Thanks for all the help guys. I see some of you were replying as I was typing the "solution". This message at the bottom will hopefully keep anyone from wasting further time on my problem. Thanks!!!
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dayle1960
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Fastest Hampster EVER

How did you fix it?
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starscream5000
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Got 70 MPG?

Yes, please share :)
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GeoRating
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He edited his original post :) Says he found some badly spliced wires by the previous owner and fixed them.
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rmcelwee
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Sorry...

Yes, found some bad crimps.

FWIW, I pressure washed the carpet and seats today (as well as a bunch of the plastic parts). This was the first time in the 1.5 years I have owned the car that I really cleaned it out. It was nasty!
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