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Topic Started: Aug 9 2011, 09:35 PM (3,523 Views)
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This was a very common failure on 70s and 80s GM cars and trucks. This was sometimes caused by missing alignment dowels between the engine and tranny. This is the first Metro failure I have heard of. A new flex-plate should solve all the problems. Be sure to get the torque converter bolts properly tightened upon reassembly.
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OK...It was the flex plate for sure....here is the pic...


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wow. HOW does that happen?
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I have a question....I am assuming the starter was damaged either while removing the transmission or by attempting to start the motor with a broken flex-plate. it seems minor but I wanted to get opinions ... should I attempt to use it or replace it.... Ot looks like its some sort of bushing that covers a c-clip .... Do you think I can tap it back in and still use the starter?

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what in the hell happened to teh flywheel? Looks like a nuke hit it
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Starter appears ok. Replace flywheel, mount starter and try it. That is, if all those teeth on your starter drive appear good. You should normally be able to rotate the teeth on that starter freely one direction but if you try to rotate it the other way it should be difficult or the whole innards of the starter should rotate with it. Check all those teeth on the drive good. If ok, reuse it. Even then, if the teeth are bad, you can buy just that drive and seperate the starter and remove that clip you are speaking about and replace the drive with a new one. Cheaper than a starter. I would probably put a little loctite on those flexplate bolts when you put them back in.
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Well, it is called a FLEXplate after all. Not a beefyplate or a solidplate.
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Edited by maxamy, Aug 21 2011, 06:57 AM.
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Tell me about it ... lol
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Steved82971
Aug 20 2011, 10:25 PM
what in the hell happened to teh flywheel? Looks like a nuke hit it
I was just putting along about 20-25 mph in my neighborhood and I heard a crunch....believe or not it i turned around and drove it back home....It's a tough little booger :-)
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Aug 20 2011, 10:46 PM
Starter appears ok. Replace flywheel, mount starter and try it. That is, if all those teeth on your starter drive appear good. You should normally be able to rotate the teeth on that starter freely one direction but if you try to rotate it the other way it should be difficult or the whole innards of the starter should rotate with it. Check all those teeth on the drive good. If ok, reuse it. Even then, if the teeth are bad, you can buy just that drive and seperate the starter and remove that clip you are speaking about and replace the drive with a new one. Cheaper than a starter. I would probably put a little loctite on those flexplate bolts when you put them back in.
What worries me is Ill get it al together and then the little bushing will cause me headaches....The starter is a bear to get to....I'm not sure I could change it without removing the engine, transmission, windshield, firewall, front and rear seats, floor pans and roof....Then I think MAYBE I could change the starter.....not sure just maybe :-) ....
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if its that much a hassle just replace it. its not like they cost very much.
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Wow!! That flex plate is messed up!! Hard to imagine our small motors doing that :lol
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The damage starts with one little crack.
Caused by fatigue or stress during an install.
Then it feeds on itself until complete failure.
Pretty common in the late 80's GM products,
Haven't seen many in the imports.
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Why you Mutt!

These cars have just about the easiest to replace starter I've ever seen...and I've had to replace the starters on most of the cars I've had at one time or another. The starter on a Chevette is a lot harder...and I had to replace THAT starter nine (count 'em...nine) times in 150k miles! (OK, a couple were defective right out of the box...)
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