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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 20 2011, 07:25 PM (708 Views) | |
| nerys | Aug 20 2011, 07:25 PM Post #1 |
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I MIGHT be able to try making E0 again. I found someone with 6 gallon "carboys" for $25 a pop. so if I can get up the $75 I need to buy the 3 25 gallon units he has and $20 for a smaller one (to test drilling holes in the glass or find a way not to drill a hole maybe a squeeze pump from above ??? Then I will had GLASS containers to separate out the Ethanol ie won't degrade from the alcohol :-) much much safer. these are actually hard to break unless you "drop" them or HIT them with something like a hammer. I cam dump in 5 gallons of gas and half gallon of water to do my separations. More later if it happens. I ALSO found out that hasslers up near allentown has apparently started selling E0 again. so if I am up there I will try to bring some E0 home. |
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| todaugen | Aug 20 2011, 07:40 PM Post #2 |
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I'm not exactly sure how this would work, but-- If you put the gas/water solution in the carboy, capped it with a faucet type of cap, and turned it upside down to separate, you could then bleed the layer that settles to the bottom off and either keep it or discard it, turning the carboy into a giant sepatory funnel. (might be problematic if gas expands and there's no vent.) Edited by todaugen, Aug 20 2011, 07:47 PM.
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| nerys | Aug 20 2011, 07:54 PM Post #3 |
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The problem with that is danger and risk. I am trying to keep them "right side up and unmoved" till I have the gas back into plastic 5 gallon cans. that IS an idea though. If I can rig a "stand" to hold them and right a water tight solid seal and a beater tube to the top to let air in when I drain it could work but man does that make it complicated. this things going to mass out at over 40 pounds total each. I have a feeling I would end up dropping one sooner or later than I have $20 worth of gasoline all over the place. |
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| Coyote X | Aug 21 2011, 07:06 PM Post #4 |
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5 gallon water cooler jugs are cheap and would probably hold up for a long time. I use one as a water separator for my diesel processing. Just get a plastic lemonade bottle that is slightly skinnier than a regular coke bottle. cut the bottom off the bottle so it slips over the top of the water jug and glue the two together with fiberglass resin or whatever glue you have laying around that would fill in the gap between the two. Then you can put a standard 3/4 inch ball valve on the bottle threads, they don't match up but if you screw it on tight with a bit of RTV it wont leak. I stood mine upside down on a wooden frame and drilled a hole in the bottom of the water jug(now the top of the setup) to fill it. Now I can fill it with whatever and let it settle out for days if needed and crack open the ball valve and drain it exactly every time. I think the water jugs are available at a lot of stores so just check around and you could probably build the whole setup for just a few bucks. They are cheap enough you could build a whole row of them easily. |
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| nerys | Aug 21 2011, 07:58 PM Post #5 |
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Nope. been their done that. Good for about 3 uses before literally THOUSANDS of micro fractures form as the ethanol aggresively assaults the plastic the jugs are made of. thats why I have to go with GLASS. Can not use any RESIN based epoxies as ethanol dissolves them. (this stuff is TRULY nasty stuff it eats EVERYTHING it seems except metal and glass and even some metals can't hold up to it from what I hear. TO keep it simple I need to drain from the bottom if possible. I am working on a top drain solution. will see how it goes. Got a nice piece of equipment today. got a 30 gallon stand alone gasoline tank. REALLY nice even has a working fuel gauge. $30. I had to grab that. Now I have a safe and LEGAL place to store up to 30 gallons of E0 as I make it. so I will go from 5 gallon gas jugs to 6 gallon carboys process with a water wash. get rid of the water/ethanol (sell it if I can) then place some stabil and processed gas (now E0 84/85 octane) into the 30gallon gas tank. then fill my car from that. Thinking put a "fuel pump" into the tank itself. rig that to a battery and a dual dead man switch. IE the "pump" handle will activate the electric pump and in my other hand another "button" have to press both to fuel (this way no one can easily accidentally empty my fuel all over the place IE safety.) Just got to save up the $75 for the 3 carboys :-) and hope he still has them when I have the money :-) |
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| Coche Blanco | Aug 21 2011, 11:31 PM Post #6 |
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Troll Certified
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I just go to the station on my way to work that doesn't have ethanol....yay for "renewable" energy! :/ |
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| Shinrin | Aug 22 2011, 12:28 AM Post #7 |
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Be sure to wear safety goggles. Messing with open gas like that, experimenting around, I'd be worried about something busting or squirting in my eyes. |
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| nerys | Aug 22 2011, 12:47 AM Post #8 |
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I don't work it in the open ie large open containers its contained. Nothing under pressure and done OUTSIDE :-) hehe yeah gas is BAD stuff if you don't respect it. |
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