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State hopes to break car owners' habit of changing oil too often
Topic Started: Dec 16 2011, 02:50 PM (2,951 Views)
rmcelwee
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-autos-oil-change-20111215,0,4554184.story
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Coche Blanco
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I love the site, http://www.checkyournumber.org/ that they link you to....try to enter...say a ... 1999 Dodge Ram...
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Coche Blanco
Dec 16 2011, 03:12 PM
I love the site, http://www.checkyournumber.org/ that they link you to....try to enter...say a ... 1999 Dodge Ram...
No worky for Geos :ermm:

Nothing, nada, zilch.

It *does* have a 2000 Suzuki Swift, listed at 3500mi.

Nothing older than 2000 :*(
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Scoobs
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:D

dont matter realy to geo metros, if you type in for a 2000 model metro, they say shoudl be changed in 3000 miles, Well there went their 7500 mil change idea :p blew up in their faces :D
Edited by bogs, Dec 16 2011, 07:21 PM.
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Lol...here's what I wrote when I saw this article yesterday (edited for political content):

Cobrajet25 at 1:33 AM December 16, 2011
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All the people here quoting the service intervals for NEWER cars are missing the point. Sure newer, lower emissions cars do not require short oil change intervals. But older cars do. Here's why...

Oil, particularly the newer synthetics, does not really deteriorate with use. But it does get CONTAMINATED with gasoline, carbon, small amounts of water, tiny metal shavings, etc, which are all byproducts of the engine's normal internal combustion process. Essentially, the dirty oil becomes a kind of liquid sandpaper inside the engine and causes wear.

Newer engines, because of their emissions controls, produce much smaller amounts of the byproducts that contaminate and dilute oil. So their oil change intervals have become LONGER. However, older or higher mileage engines still produce large amounts of these contaminants and their oil should be changed at much SHORTER intervals. The way the car is used is also a factor. Taxis contaminate their oil much faster than cars used as freeway commuters.

Do you drive a '08 Lexus IS250 and use it as a freeway commuter? Change every 10k.

Do you drive a '97 Geo Metro as an in-town delivery car? Every 3k is not a bad idea.
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Cobrajet25
Dec 16 2011, 05:16 PM
Lol...here's what I wrote when I saw this article yesterday (edited for political content):

Cobrajet25 at 1:33 AM December 16, 2011
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All the people here quoting the service intervals for NEWER cars are missing the point. Sure newer, lower emissions cars do not require short oil change intervals. But older cars do. Here's why...

Oil, particularly the newer synthetics, does not really deteriorate with use. But it does get CONTAMINATED with gasoline, carbon, small amounts of water, tiny metal shavings, etc, which are all byproducts of the engine's normal internal combustion process. Essentially, the dirty oil becomes a kind of liquid sandpaper inside the engine and causes wear.

Newer engines, because of their emissions controls, produce much smaller amounts of the byproducts that contaminate and dilute oil. So their oil change intervals have become LONGER. However, older or higher mileage engines still produce large amounts of these contaminants and their oil should be changed at much SHORTER intervals. The way the car is used is also a factor. Taxis contaminate their oil much faster than cars used as freeway commuters.

Do you drive a '08 Lexus IS250 and use it as a freeway commuter? Change every 10k.

Do you drive a '97 Geo Metro as an in-town delivery car? Every 3k is not a bad idea.
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Ok cobrajet, now I would like to know if the 10K oil change is good for a high mileage G10, or should I change it at 5K?

Engine has over 200K on the clock. Would dinosaur oil be good or should I go for the super expensive ABC mwebb oil?
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Johnny Mullet
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I run dino oil at 5000 mile change intervals. I would say 7500 would be max.
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dayle1960
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Fastest Hampster EVER

Thanks, boss.
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nerys
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Grr

I "aim" to change roughly every 4000 miles. why? its absolutely positively the cheapest stinking insurance you can buy for your car that ACTUALLY pays you dividends.

then I take the old oil and stick it in the fuel tank for the heater at work.
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Coche Blanco
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"Taxis contaminate their oil much faster than cars used as freeway commuters."


This is untrue, or partially false. Wanna know why?
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Way


Ok, ok, why? :popcorn
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dayle1960
Dec 16 2011, 10:20 PM
Cobrajet25
Dec 16 2011, 05:16 PM
Lol...here's what I wrote when I saw this article yesterday (edited for political content):

Cobrajet25 at 1:33 AM December 16, 2011
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All the people here quoting the service intervals for NEWER cars are missing the point. Sure newer, lower emissions cars do not require short oil change intervals. But older cars do. Here's why...

Oil, particularly the newer synthetics, does not really deteriorate with use. But it does get CONTAMINATED with gasoline, carbon, small amounts of water, tiny metal shavings, etc, which are all byproducts of the engine's normal internal combustion process. Essentially, the dirty oil becomes a kind of liquid sandpaper inside the engine and causes wear.

Newer engines, because of their emissions controls, produce much smaller amounts of the byproducts that contaminate and dilute oil. So their oil change intervals have become LONGER. However, older or higher mileage engines still produce large amounts of these contaminants and their oil should be changed at much SHORTER intervals. The way the car is used is also a factor. Taxis contaminate their oil much faster than cars used as freeway commuters.

Do you drive a '08 Lexus IS250 and use it as a freeway commuter? Change every 10k.

Do you drive a '97 Geo Metro as an in-town delivery car? Every 3k is not a bad idea.
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Ok cobrajet, now I would like to know if the 10K oil change is good for a high mileage G10, or should I change it at 5K?

Engine has over 200K on the clock. Would dinosaur oil be good or should I go for the super expensive ABC mwebb oil?
I use my Metro for in-town delivery. I run dino for 3000, synth blend for 4000, and full synthetic for 5000.

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Coche Blanco
Dec 16 2011, 11:49 PM
"Taxis contaminate their oil much faster than cars used as freeway commuters."


This is untrue, or partially false. Wanna know why?
In-town acceleration uses more gas. More gas equals more contaminants.

Look under "Severe Service Schedule" in ANY car owners manual printed in the last 50 years. Often, taxis are mentioned specifically. :thumb
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Rooy


A UOA (used oil analysis) is the way to go if you want to know for sure.
Edited by Rooy, Dec 17 2011, 04:05 AM.
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I applaud the concept, but have to chuckle at them shooting themselves in the foot. Typical inept performance from a government agency. Out of my three cars, one says exactly what the owner's manual says, the other two recommend substantially more frequent oil changes than the owner's manual says. If I followed that website, I'd have to change my oil twice as often as I do.
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