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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 11 2012, 10:08 PM (4,126 Views) | |
| sphenicie | Jan 12 2012, 11:52 AM Post #16 |
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vr4, you will find the talon to be most accurate if you use the hand pump, or top off with the hand pump, as holding the exact same pressure every time is the key. As a scuba tank goes down in pressure with time you charge your weapon, so does the velocity of the pellet. same is true with standard firearms, cheap rounds have inconsistant powder loads, and therefore the path of the bullet is also inconsistant. vary nice weapon, vr4. |
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| HelterSkelter | Jan 12 2012, 12:07 PM Post #17 |
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#1 Pizza Driver
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it cocks back a spring that power a piston that pushes the pellet out with compressed air. |
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| Johnny Mullet | Jan 12 2012, 10:53 PM Post #18 |
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Fear the Mullet
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My break barrel Stoeger is an awesome rifle. Great to have in a survival situation since ammo is cheap and even if you ran out, you could carve some from hard wood and keep on eating small game. |
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| Memphis metro | Jan 12 2012, 10:58 PM Post #19 |
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Things get that bad, you could do like they do in the jungle. Cut you a cane and make you a poison dart blow gun like they shoot them monkeys out of trees with.
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| vr4 | Jan 12 2012, 11:30 PM Post #20 |
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Mmm. Tasty tasty monkey meat. |
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| sphenicie | Jan 13 2012, 02:12 AM Post #21 |
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I've been wondering about the long term accuracy of the break barrel design, as the scope mounts back on the "breach" and the piviot point of the barrel is in front of that. The fiber optic open sights that come on Stoegers are awesome! I have been thinking about getting some scope rings that let you look through under the scope, so you can use the f/o sights.
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| Memphis metro | Jan 13 2012, 05:18 AM Post #22 |
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See thru scope rings while allowing you to use both the iron sights and the scope really cut down on the performance of shooting. The reason is this, it puts the scope up higher and creates a wider margin of bullet travel as opposed to line of sight. Heres a crude picture but maybe you can understand what I am trying to say. To create a most accurate gun, you want your line of sight and gun sights as close to the barrel of the gun as possible. The higher the sights off the gun barrel effects the accuracy of the gun at differant distances. You can sight the gun in at 20 yards with see thru sights but at other yardages (further and closer) the gun will be far less accurate than if your sight path were closer to the actual bullet path of the barrel. I shot a deer one time with a rifle with see thru sights. The gun was dead on at 50 yards but the deer was not at 50 yards but more like 75. When I hit the deer I seen a blood spot pop right up where the bullet hit and the impact was higher than my point of aim. I lost the deer because my bullet did not strike where my actual line of sight was because of the see thru rings creating the broad margin of bullet travel. For most acccuracy always keep your gun sights as close to the barrel as possible. I know the drawing sucks but you can look at the bullet path and the line of sight path and get the idea about the differance of impact at differant yardages.![]() I understand what you are saying about the scope mounting not being on the barrel which is breaking but mounted on the action of the gun. I suppose if the gun is fairly new and tight and closes consistantly the accuracy will maintain consistantly. I myself would rather shoot iron sights with a pellet gun any day over a scope no further than a pellet gun shoots. A firearm for hunting is a differant story. Still rather have iron sights at close distances but unfortunately when hunting you need a scope to see for further distances. . |
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| sphenicie | Jan 13 2012, 09:09 AM Post #23 |
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Your pic is good. The scope is extreme overkill, at 3-9X50, but for the xtra 50 bucks, including rings, I figured it would save a bunch of leg work. I can actually see the open sights in the bottom of the scope view. When the light is just right it's a little weird because the fiber optics glow and you really notice it. . The trajectory arc is problematic with range changes, also changes in pellet weight, in 22 cal it goes from +-9grains to +-30 gr. I've got 14 different pellet weights and configureations, so its impossible for me to keep all the info straight. thats why i would like to be able to use the open sights, and nice nice 2 color f/o sites they are. . Lots of shooting fun. These new Air guns are impressive, and yes you can spend a grand or more on one. . off topic a bit, but I am generally a bow hunter, I have taken 8 bucks, from 2 points to 10 pts, except 8 pts, and one black bear. All right here on our 12 acres. (it takes about 10 yrs to get a bear permit, and you have to apply every year, hassle, big hassle, DNR money maker) |
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| dayle1960 | Jan 13 2012, 12:27 PM Post #24 |
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Fastest Hampster EVER
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Hmmm. if it were me, i would skip the DNR permit. I'd say the bear died of a heart attack on MY PROPERTY. Or maybe i would say when it saw me i scared it to death. And then while it was laying there dead, i started to take target practice at it. Dang , its getting closer and closer to the time when we won't be able to take a miss on our own property because that might kill a speckled title mouse spider. Argh..... |
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| Memphis metro | Jan 13 2012, 01:54 PM Post #25 |
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Heres my benjamin a friend gave me over thirty years ago in the top of this picture in .177 caliber. Very accurate gun. Also pictured is the break barrel gamo hunter model 440 in .177 caliber I bought for my dad. Its a heavy gun, just like you were toting a 3006, very heavy. Made in spain. Notice the iron sights are mounted on the barrel. They should never be out of adjustment since they break with the barrel. The gun came with a real nice scope though. ![]()
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| sphenicie | Jan 14 2012, 09:20 AM Post #26 |
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Ohhh sooo cool, the Benny is a real classic. Very nice, I am drooling. Is it a 'pump up' type or single stroke? My Stoeger (Baretta) is heavy too. I was surprised by how heavy, I was looking at a Gamo, "socom tactical", but went for the more traditional style. MY X50 has the irons on the barrel also. The scope is located back on the 'breach'. I still want the see through rings, then i can use the irons in close and scope for longer shots. I used to use a side by side 20ga. for everything. Similar effect to the higher scope, as when you are shooting slugs. the barrels taper in as you move to the end of the muzzle. Therefore the right barrels point of impact is left, and the left barrel POI is right. . Dayle, we dont have those speckled title mouse spiders round here, too cold, otherwise I'd have to blast me a couple, just for good measure! They any good eatn'? . Couple years back a local guy shot a moose, he figured he would register it as a dear. YEA, well, should have just cut it up in the garage. |
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| sphenicie | Jan 14 2012, 09:27 AM Post #27 |
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I wanted a big bore air gun for dear hunting, but wisconsin is one of those states which catagoricly disallows it even though they meet the muzzle force requirement. At an opening price of about $600 for a base model, I want to be able to use it to put meat in the freezer. . Anyone out there got a big bore air rifle? |
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