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SOPA PIPA got a website? are you blacking out?
Topic Started: Jan 17 2012, 06:24 PM (1,544 Views)
Robisaurus
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Cherry popped 01/14/12

I dig the banner idea. Simple, yet enough to do the trick.
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DesmondGhostRider
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Robisaurus
Jan 18 2012, 02:10 AM
This is a load of crap. Every day I'm faced with another reason to leave this country in hope for something more free. However, politics will corrupt anything and everything it touches. It's human nature.
gonna have to agree with you on that. I'd rather be free than be under the illusion of freedom.

Occupy Geo Metro Forum!
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TheKid
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Another round of 'occupy' would result... only this time it may be 100 folds or more.

The end of normalcy as we know it.... if that happens.
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Robisaurus
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Cherry popped 01/14/12

I believe the government to be ignorant, stubborn, or greedy enough to allow any of these acts to pass. They would have an incredible revolt on their hands.
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nerys
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I believe its pure greed. they don't want to censor the internet. they are flat out being PAID to censor the internet. it all comes down to lobbying and future promises of wealth.

I am not trying to make JM do it just offering up the idea and making it as easy as possible thats all :-) in reality sites like this and sites like mine are largely irrelevant in the bigger picture. (sites like facebook craigslist wikipedia get more unique visits in 60 seconds than our sites combined get in total visits in a year :-)

but imagine Geo Metro Forum going offline because GM shut down the DNS for GeoMetroForum.com because it used their GeoMetro trademark?

its 100% possible with these laws. you see some of you might cry fair used or non infringing use.

but you forget these laws require no courts. no warrants no due process NO EVIDENCE of any merit. they can simply "decree" it be so and the site is "GONE" and you helping each other with say an IP address to get to the site or JM making a new domain name would be a Federal Crime!

that scenario is 100% possible. in fact its already happened. you see they already HAVE this power to some extent (requires some government oversight) via ICE for AMERICAN sites.

I forget the name (google it you will find it) there was a startup that had a legal video streaming on its site. they had the authorization letter from the rights holder to stream the video.

ICE on behalf of a label took down the site (took over the domain name)

they were out of business no due process of any real merit. no explanation. NO RECOURSE (that is the big one) nothing they could "DO" about it

after writing numerous letters a YEAR LATER (in the internet world that might as well be forever your done) the domain was given back with ZERO explanation.

not even an oops sorry our bad.

this law EXPANDS that power and worse its not domain control its DNS control so it actually breaks the internet at its core. think China Firewall kind of crap.

not from a court. but on the whim of corporations.

that is truly scary stuff. is GM going to target this forum? no of course not.

but an oversight when GM takes down a bunch of sites and this one just happens to be on the list and no one actually "checked"

what is JM to do? he has no one to contact. No recourse no due process. he just gets caught up in the melee and this site is history. Gone.
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nerys
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The fear now is NOT whether sopa or pipa will pass. I am reasonably confident they won't the issue now is if hey will just make it a rider for some other law and sneak it through.

once they have the power they "WILL NOT" give it up. ever. short of force of the threat of force.
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nerys
Jan 18 2012, 05:02 PM
The fear now is NOT whether sopa or pipa will pass. I am reasonably confident they won't the issue now is if hey will just make it a rider for some other law and sneak it through.

once they have the power they "WILL NOT" give it up. ever. short of force of the threat of force.
You can bet there will be HORDS of people watching every bill for parasite language that even remotely resembles SOPA/PIPA
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I doubt it will pass.

The Obama admin. has already said that they dont approve of it. If it does pass Obama can just veto it.

The only way for it to pass after that is to get a 2/3 vote from both partys and since when can either of our partys agree on anything?

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Our internet is already "censored" to an extent. When you use google there are a LOT of results that just simply wont show up. If you search anything to do with bombs you get flagged and usually get someone watching you.

I used to know a way to unblock google but its been a few years and I dont have the directions saved on the computer.
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Coche Blanco
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No one is really "free" in this country. If you think you are, you're just kidding yourself.

And I'm not one of "those guys" that thinks 9/11 was an inside job, or Obama is the Antichrist...I'm just a regular 19 year old kid that knows enough to get himself into trouble.

I think, that the only way you're going to have your "freedom" is to move to an uninhabited place and start your own colony, alone. You can't even bring your wife...because god knows she has rules you have to follow.
Edited by Coche Blanco, Jan 19 2012, 01:01 AM.
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nerys
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Grr

well he was against the NDAA too till the last day when he snuck it in and just signed it :-(
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Robisaurus
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Cherry popped 01/14/12

R.I.P MegaUpload.
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DesmondGhostRider
Jan 19 2012, 12:48 AM
I doubt it will pass.

The Obama admin. has already said that they dont approve of it. If it does pass Obama can just veto it.

The only way for it to pass after that is to get a 2/3 vote from both partys and since when can either of our partys agree on anything?

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Our internet is already "censored" to an extent. When you use google there are a LOT of results that just simply wont show up. If you search anything to do with bombs you get flagged and usually get someone watching you.

I used to know a way to unblock google but its been a few years and I dont have the directions saved on the computer.


it's not too uncommon for bills to pass after a veto. if the bill passes with close to or more than two thirds the first time chances are it will pass even with a presidential veto


also if you signed that petition you may as well sign this one too : http://google.com/takeaction
Edited by HelterSkelter, Jan 20 2012, 02:09 AM.
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