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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 30 2012, 01:06 AM (2,226 Views) | |
| HelterSkelter | Mar 30 2012, 01:06 AM Post #1 |
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when you push the shift knob to the left from the neutral position there is not a lot of resistance but enough to it will pop right back to center. when you push it to the right there is significantly more resistance, like several times more. is this normal? is there any way to make them the same? Edited by HelterSkelter, Mar 30 2012, 01:18 PM.
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| Deleted User | Mar 30 2012, 01:31 AM Post #2 |
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Yup. Totally obsessive. But, no one is more obsessive than I am. Check this out. A couple of hardware store bronze bushings. The ID fits the pin. The OD would not fit into the end of the shift lever. I took it to a maching shop, and they made them fit. They added a grease fitting. The end of the grease fitting had to be whacked off because it was rubbing on the pin. Or, the middle of the pin could be grooved to avoid having to whack off the grease fitting. The grease fitting ball fell out when the end was removed. Or, skip the grease fitting.
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| HelterSkelter | Mar 30 2012, 01:35 AM Post #3 |
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i don't understand..... |
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| Deleted User | Mar 30 2012, 01:40 AM Post #4 |
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There are nylon bushings in the end of the shift lever. They wear out, or melt, or both. To see them, you have to get under the car. What you're looking at is a picture of the business end of a shift lever located under the car. The cheap-o nylon OEM bushings were replaced with bronze bushings. Bushing wear is what gives you sloppy shifter. My shifter is so sloppy . . . This is the fix. For me, the fix involves a can of worms . . . carpet and seat replacement, while I'm at it, interior installation, etc. It's going to take a week's worth of "while I'm in there's" to get that sloppy shifter fixed. |
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| HelterSkelter | Mar 30 2012, 01:46 AM Post #5 |
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so that's the little end that pokes out underneath the car? all i need to do is replace those bushings and the shifter will resist the same amount in both directions. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 30 2012, 02:01 AM Post #6 |
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Essentially, yes. I PM'd Coche Blanco the same picture earlier today. He took one look and said something about he didn't have that kind of time to get that complicated. He used Alabama Engineering Techniques (can I say that?) to cure the problem. Maybe Mr. CB will chime in with more than 2 words. He might even post some pictures of his bushing fix. |
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| HelterSkelter | Mar 30 2012, 02:09 AM Post #7 |
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so i'm guessing it's not as easy and crawling under the car and disconnecting the end and replacing the bushings? :{ |
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| Woodie | Mar 30 2012, 05:57 AM Post #8 |
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That's exactly backwards. There should be slight resistance pulling it toward the left for first and second. There should be more pushing it toward fifth and reverse. Sounds as if someone installed the detent springs backwards. Edited by Woodie, Mar 30 2012, 05:58 AM.
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| sphenicie | Mar 30 2012, 07:48 AM Post #9 |
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Nice fix Glenn! . I'm going to have to pull the gearbox out of barney, (5th gear whine), i think i will do this at all three points, "while i have it appart"! great tip! |
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| Coche Blanco | Mar 30 2012, 07:54 AM Post #10 |
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Mine was the same way as Helter's, the right side nylon bushing was totally eaten up/gone. |
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| t3ragtop | Mar 30 2012, 08:54 AM Post #11 |
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there's a similar set of bushings on both ends of the shifter rod. also, there's a big rubber bushing on the pivot for the shifter that's mounted to the floor under the console. the big rubber bushing at the bottom of the shifter has a lot of open area in it so that the bushing sort of "floats" which reduces vibration that is transmitted from the engine to the shifter. i remove the mount from the floor, tear it down, and fill the voids with 60 - 80 shore polyurethane, when i'm going over that assembly to clean and refurbish it. i generally replace the shifter itself with a new aluminum aftermarket shifter for a honda civic or relocate the pivot ball on the stock shifter to obtain a shorter throw at the top which makes your actual motion much more precise. once i get everything tightened up, the shifter feels better and it "snicks" into gear like a gaited shifter from a real sports car instead of feeling like you're stirring oatmeal. ![]() glenn, that's a great idea to install a grease zerk into the bushing tube. i like the bronze bushings, too. i generally used ball bearings to replace the bushings which completely removed any slack in the shifter mechanism. the only thing with that procedure is that it's pretty expensive and time consuming. it makes the car shift like silk, though. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 30 2012, 10:23 AM Post #12 |
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Oooooooohhhhh! T3! Now we're talking! Ball bearings. I'm on that like white on rice. The bronze bushing mod is in the back of the car, and for sale at GeoPalooza. $50 |
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| t3ragtop | Mar 30 2012, 10:50 AM Post #13 |
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i adopted that from the short throw shifter kit. it came with ball bearings, a honda thing i guess. |
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| HelterSkelter | Mar 30 2012, 01:18 PM Post #14 |
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no i had it backwards. edited first post. |
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| 95-3banger | Mar 30 2012, 02:04 PM Post #15 |
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Well, in that case it sounds normal.
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