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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 8 2012, 11:31 PM (2,555 Views) | |
| area50.9 | Apr 8 2012, 11:31 PM Post #1 |
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my engine smokes at high rmps and it has 180psi for compression and it runs good and doesnt smoke at idle but if someone can please tell me if its a valve seal cuz i bought this car for 400 and its me first car and i just want it to run good then ill fix the rust and carpet but if someone can please tell me forsure its the seal before i take it all apart, and i just changes the pcv valve and it still smokes, thanks |
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| HelterSkelter | Apr 8 2012, 11:42 PM Post #2 |
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Where does the smoke come from? |
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| Fireball 89 | Apr 9 2012, 11:18 AM Post #3 |
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Also, what color is the smoke? If from the tail pipe, white would indicate cooling fluid leak in the engine, black would indicate too rich fuel, blue would indicate oil. Edward |
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| Bad Bent | Apr 9 2012, 01:22 PM Post #4 |
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Welcome to your new forum, area50.9! 50.9 The Wife and I watched the movie Paul again last night. A laugh riot, IMHO.Changed the PCV but cleaned the "Y" hose? Oil in the air cleaner? Please answer the questions for more information and better diagnosis. If the oil wasn't regularly changed then there may be blockage in the oil return passages. Next oil change add 5-6 ounces of Seafoam to the oil 300-500 miles before the oil change and it cleans the carbon out. ALSO adding some Marvel Mystery Oil to the crank case has been known to loosen stuck rings - although you have good compression. A balloon placed over the dip stick tube would inflate if there were pressure in the oil pan. You can pull the plugs and see if they are oily. I find that poor spark from bad plugs/plug wires/distributor causes incomplete burning and smoke. Or it could be something dripping on the exhaust like from the distributor o-ring? We've even had a hole in the oil filter cause problems.
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| TheKid | Apr 9 2012, 02:11 PM Post #5 |
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My money is on the valve seals....
Edited by TheKid, Apr 9 2012, 02:11 PM.
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| area50.9 | Apr 15 2012, 08:17 PM Post #6 |
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thanks guys, and yeah i changed the pcv valve and theres no oil in the y hose and i just changed the oil awhile ago and thats when it seemed to start smokeing but then i just got the car right before but i ordered some valve seals and there getting here this week and ill let you guys know it that fixes the problem, |
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| area50.9 | Apr 15 2012, 09:13 PM Post #7 |
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and yes it straight blue smoke from the tail pipe and under but only becuase i had a hole under |
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| 91 ragtop | Apr 15 2012, 10:27 PM Post #8 |
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Does it have oil puddled up in the air cleaner where the pcv hose hooks to it ? Ken.... |
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| area50.9 | Apr 15 2012, 10:45 PM Post #9 |
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no its dry |
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| Good bye | Apr 15 2012, 10:51 PM Post #10 |
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Can you make it smoke by reving it up and down? If so it needs rings, the oil control rings are either worn out or stuck. |
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| area50.9 | Apr 16 2012, 12:15 AM Post #11 |
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well i think the valve seals are bad cuz it smokes all the time basicaly |
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| Woodie | Apr 16 2012, 06:19 AM Post #12 |
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Valve stem seals smoke mostly at startup. If you're getting smoke all the time, it's rings. And you cat is most likely shot too. |
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| area50.9 | Apr 17 2012, 02:56 AM Post #13 |
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do i have to take the head off or can i take off the oil pan and take out the piston and free the oil rings? |
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| Good bye | Apr 17 2012, 09:15 AM Post #14 |
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The pistons come out the top.
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| Old Man | Apr 17 2012, 09:44 AM Post #15 |
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You say it "smokes at high RPMs". I think I would try using an additive to free up the oil rings before i started doing any actual work on the engine such as valve seals or pulling the head or pan. you say it has 180 compression. That only means that the valves and compression rings are good. The oil rings could be hung up with carbon creating the smoking and you could still have good compression readings. pull the oil filter, drain the oil out of it then refill the oil with an additive called Marvel Mystery Oil. At the same time add a few ounces of the MMO to the gas tank. For the next 2 or 3 tanks add MMO to the gas tank and top off the oil with the MMO. If the oil rings are gunked up maybe that will be all you need to free them up and stop the smoking. |
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