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| 95 1.3 in a 96 metro no crank sensor!; crank sensor | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 14 2012, 07:58 PM (4,386 Views) | |
| jojoed | Apr 14 2012, 07:58 PM Post #1 |
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OK so i installed a 95 1,3 in my 96that also has the 1,3 and guess what the 95 dose not have crank sensor and the engine will not start it fires for about 2 sec and thats it,will i need to install the computer from the 95 in to the 96 or is there another way? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2012, 08:10 PM Post #2 |
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Rework time. You need a crankshaft sensor. You need the oil pump that will hold the crankshaft sensor. You need the '96 oil pan. You need the distributor from the '96. You will most likely find these parts on your old engine, unless you traded it in as a core. http://geometroforum.com/single/?p=593694&t=4623367 http://geometroforum.com/single/?p=628416&t=4743336 |
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| jojoed | Apr 14 2012, 08:15 PM Post #3 |
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no i dident trade it , but the prolbem is the 95 block dose not have the hole in it for the sensor like the 96 i tryed just swapin the oil pans dident work out,lol..dident know the oil pump was driffent? and the distributor? |
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| Johnny Mullet | Apr 14 2012, 08:34 PM Post #4 |
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Oil pump, oil pan, lower crank gear, cam gear (if different), timing belt, and sensor all need swapped over. |
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| jojoed | Apr 14 2012, 08:40 PM Post #5 |
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is there a guide on how to do this,the 96 block dosent look like it comes apart looks like the hole for the sensor is part of the block? |
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| 96Geoman | Apr 14 2012, 08:50 PM Post #6 |
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The newer oil pump, when bolted to the block, actually looks like part of the block. Remove the oil pan and look at the bottom of the block where the oil pump is. You'll see where the oil pump meets the block. The bottom of the oil pump made for the crank sensor has a hole in it for the magnetic crank trigger. The magnetic crank trigger depends on a toothed ring behind the 5 bolt crank sprocket to fire the crank trigger. (The older 4 bolt crank sprocket does not use the crank trigger and only has a round ring NOT a toothed ring) The newer sprockets are square tooth and wider than the older round tooth narrow sprockets. Edited by 96Geoman, Apr 14 2012, 09:00 PM.
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| jojoed | Apr 14 2012, 08:55 PM Post #7 |
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ok thanx ill check it out tommorow |
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| Woodie | Apr 15 2012, 05:53 AM Post #8 |
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Someone on here just jumpered the distributor mounted sensor to the wires for the crank mounted sensor and has their car running. Don't know any more details about it, but I remember him saying it a couple of times. |
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| jojoed | Apr 15 2012, 09:24 AM Post #9 |
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the distributor mounted sensor u say humm, makes since..where would that be? |
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| arollinstone | Apr 15 2012, 10:45 AM Post #10 |
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It was 99Metro, he just spliced into the wires coming out of the distributer. |
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| jojoed | Apr 15 2012, 06:39 PM Post #11 |
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ok so i changed oil pump and pan and sprocket and distrubitor and no fire now?? |
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| 96Geoman | Apr 15 2012, 07:05 PM Post #12 |
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Did you connected the crank trigger wire? regarding the sprockets, did you also replace the cam sprocket? Timing marks lined up ok? Ground wires attached to the back of the intake manifold? Ground wire and coil wire attached to the distributor? Gas in the car? lol |
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| jojoed | Apr 15 2012, 07:45 PM Post #13 |
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yes hooked up wire did not change the cam sprocket thay looked the same??, i did not move the cam or the crank and both lines were straight up and down lined up,i did hook up the white connector for the distributor, coil wire is hooked up but no fire getting to it? i pulled the wire off number 1 plug and no spark, yes ground wire is hooked up, i hooked it on top of the intake would that matter? not the back, n yes i put 10 dollors gas in it just in case ,lol also u time it by the number 1 cyl top dead and button pointing @ the number 1 on the cap right? |
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| Woodie | Apr 16 2012, 04:19 AM Post #14 |
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You must change the toothed ring behind the crank sprocket and you must not use an oil pan gasket. |
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| jojoed | Apr 16 2012, 09:27 AM Post #15 |
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ok ill do that thanx,i did not use oil pan gasket just used some sealent is there anything else i should check while im in there? |
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