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ac delete 96 metro
Topic Started: Sep 24 2012, 09:07 PM (1,762 Views)
nick eastoowd
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Any write ups or tips on how to do this? I need those mpgs. I'm sure i can figure it out but just want all the input i can get before i go breaking stuff. Thanks
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georandy
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Two wrenches from underneath, pull off the belt. Or, you could use a pocketknife and simply cut it off from above if you don't want to use the belt again.
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bansheetaz


i dont think its worth the .05 of a mpg you will gain by deleting the a/c. it sure is nice to have on a mega hot day. its a huge pain in the ass to find all the parts and add it if you want to later. if you want to gain the mpgs just dont push the a/c button.
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Stiffchezze
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Sir Metrologist

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RumpledSuit
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993cc & 234cc
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Once you take the bumper off it is easy to see how the a/c comes off. I weighed the box of a/c parts that were under the hood (compressor/fan/condensor/dryer)--it was 31 pounds. I still have to remove the evaporator that is inside the car--that will be more weight removed.
This is alot of weight to carry around that offers no crash protection. If your system is depressurized because you had a leak and it has been many years since you added R-134a, then it is worth deleting--otherwise it is illegal under Section 608 of the Clean Air Act to knowingly vent the refrigerant.
Besides the weight issue there is also the fact that the a/c condensor blocks 2/3 of your radiator so your fan has to run more.
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Mikey9999
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If you delete, save all parts for selling! It cost me about the same to buy a second Metro with A/C to get all the A/C parts!

Just because YOU do not want it don't assume nobody else will!
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cdemattos
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surely you get more than .05 mpg by removing the belt. even without the ac button on, you are still eliminating the drag on the engine to turn that pulley, right?
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Shinrin
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If the AC is off and everything is as it should be, the ac pulley shouldn't add much, if any, resistance.
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Xficanfly
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Great, am planning to delete the ac because it is so counter space for ez service
In the engine bay...what would be helpful is if a member may post the wrench sizes to disconnect the ac lines?xficanfly.
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geogonfa
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Xficanfly
Jul 29 2017, 11:53 PM
Great, am planning to delete the ac because it is so counter space for ez service
In the engine bay...what would be helpful is if a member may post the wrench sizes to disconnect the ac lines?xficanfly.
If your removing the Whole A/C system be sure to put it all in a box including the wiring harnesses, relays, VSV, A/C amplifier...there are some members whom would really like to have it...and if you remove the Evap core box your going to need the replacement plenum section...Hmmm I might have one of those, gonna have to check the shelves...
As far as wrench sizes this is going to be difficult due to your signature states it's an XFi which means it has Dealer A/C and those were not a stock system under the hood, it was what ever they pieced together...
The normal A/C systems usually need: 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, for hardware...17mm, 19mm, 21mm, 23mm, 24mm 26mm,, or 15/16", 1", 1 1/16", 1 1/8",( or a few good crescent wrench's) for the hoses...
It's easier to remove the front Bumper to get the Condenser core and fan assembly out and then you need to add a plate where the condenser was mounted... :type
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MR1 Kingsbury
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It is a bad idea to remove the a/c and a/c subsystems. Their weight and engine load are very insignificant to provide more than a minuscule fuel cost benefit, and may certainly promote malfunction or failure of other non related systems...
I agree with Geogonfa and you MUST save every single nut, bolt, washer, pipe, hose, and part if you must remove the thing. Much better option to sell the system complete or provide it for resale with the car.
An easier and much more effective way to improve mileage and maintenance access would be to learn you car, its systems and the powerplant characteristics. Drive smooth and easy with slow methodical acceleration and always consider your deceleration many seconds in advance. Use less brakes and more forethought. Keep your painted surfaces clean, tires aired proper, engine tuned and clean, alignment straight and excess weight baggage to a minimum.
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evmetro


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Jul 30 2017, 09:36 AM
It is a bad idea to remove the a/c and a/c subsystems. Their weight and engine load are very insignificant to provide more than a minuscule fuel cost benefit, and may certainly promote malfunction or failure of other non related systems...
I agree with Geogonfa and you MUST save every single nut, bolt, washer, pipe, hose, and part if you must remove the thing. Much better option to sell the system complete or provide it for resale with the car.
An easier and much more effective way to improve mileage and maintenance access would be to learn you car, its systems and the powerplant characteristics. Drive smooth and easy with slow methodical acceleration and always consider your deceleration many seconds in advance. Use less brakes and more forethought. Keep your painted surfaces clean, tires aired proper, engine tuned and clean, alignment straight and excess weight baggage to a minimum.
Good post. The weight of the A/C sytem is not significant, and removing it will not do much for the fuel economy. The best financial benefit of removing the A/C system is likely the money you make selling it to somebody. A complete A/C system, with all the parts needed to upgrade a non A/C Metro, is worth years of the trivial fuel economy savings that you might see without it. To the best of my knowledge, 99% of what it takes to get maximum fuel economy is covered simply by owning a 3/5 Metro that is in good running order. Removing parts and taping cardboard to your Metro is a waste of time. If you have a 3/5 Metro that is in good running order, you are in the hyper milling club already, and have done almost everything you can do to get the most out of a gallon of gasoline.
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davegran
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geogonfa
Jul 30 2017, 08:05 AM
If your removing the Whole A/C system be sure to put it all in a box including the wiring harnesses, relays, VSV, A/C amplifier...there are some members whom would really like to have it....
What he said! :coffee My vert A/C was disabled by the PO and I have been trying to come up with parts for it for two years. They ain't easy to find.... :banghead
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MetroKid
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What if you don't use a/c?
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suzukitom
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Tom

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Jul 30 2017, 11:23 PM
What if you don't use a/c?
No a/c + long hot summer = grumpy sweaty driver.

:lol
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