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Tevie2 '93 metro; yep, another ev
Topic Started: Dec 18 2012, 02:57 AM (24,773 Views)
evmetro


I picked this guy up from a forum member a few months ago, and he gave me a pretty nice deal, but specified that he did not want it to go to the crusher. She has been sitting around in the shop gathering dust, but I am getting ready to dig in.


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My goal here will be to continue to avoid the gas pump of course, but I want to have my mpg after converting gas price to electric price be higher than a prius and an insight combined. I like the feel of the 110 pounds of torque that my current one has, and the metro does not seem to be able to connect any more torque than that to the road anyway.

I will post some pics here in the next few days of what the car looks like from the start. I need to clear off the roof and hood of all the tools and rockstar cans, and then I can get some pics.
Edited by evmetro, Jul 24 2013, 08:37 PM.
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Looks decent ^o) Weird front bumper, has a double chin thing going on with the air dam :hmm
Is it to be an auto or a stick?
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It is a five speed, and I will probably have to squoochy it 4 and a half inches toward the drivers side to accomidate the new motor. This is just fabbing a set of engine mounts and adding a set of 4/3 axles.
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Any update ev?
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evmetro


I have not had much time on this one yet, but the batteries are here. It took months to get them in from China, most of the delays were here in the states with customs and all of the other people that need fees for this and that. I just drove to the SF bay area today and picked up the cells for this car and for the "electro metro", and my pickup was sitting a little lower on the way home.

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I got 36 of the larger cells shown in the pic for this car. They are 200ah, and the series string of these cells will be 115 volts. (3.2 volts times 36 cells) I am still buried in the Tevie1 project and the Electro Metro project, so this one will stay on hold for a while. If I get some spare time, I might yank the gas motor or something, but for now she is on the back burner.
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what is the chemistry of those batts?
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evmetro


Lithium iron phosphate...
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evmetro


This one will be tevie 2. The motor, controller, and tranny for this will come out of tevie1. I have begun the aluminum work on the hatch battery box and have determined that I can pack 24 of the 36 200ah cells will fit into the hatch, but the coil springs that are in there now are not happening. The cells are 14 lbs each, so 336 lbs. That is like having two adults ride around in the back seat forever. My plan is to maintain a backseat, and the hatch will have a subfloor over the cells and be much shallower.

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Good plan. Where will the other 12 go, gas tank? Under hood?
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evmetro


I will stuff them under the hood, hopefully in a single box, but most likely in several. I have my eyes on a plan to lower the tranny a little when I make the motor mounts, but not sure yet. These cells are much deeper than the ones on tevie1, so I can't put the across the top like I did on that one. The 12 cells under the hood will be much needed weight distribution to offset the cells in the hatch. My plan so far is to do a simple conversion with very little modification to the chassis, but still do a higher end build.
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Can the 12 under the hood be layed on their sides and double stacked, i.e. 6 on their sides two layers high? Or do they have to sit upright?
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evmetro


Ok, today was the day for this 93. I went ahead and drove it over to the lift for an official "in work" stage. She needed a jump start, but fired right up after sitting around for 6 months. Purred like a kitten, but when revved up there was no way to not hear the rod knock... Anyway, I parked it between the posts on my lift.

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First order of business is to get rid of the stuff that won't be needed for an EV.

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evmetro


Just my luck, I had a full tank... Anyway, That is what I got done on her today. It felt kinda funny knowing that as I drained the fluids, there would be no refill other than some synchromesh in the tranny...
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Why "Tevie"? And it's pronounced like "TV", right?
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evmetro


Acronym will be revealed soon. It rhymes with chevy.
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:hmm I look forward to the reveal!
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evmetro


I am working on a website for the business, where there will be parts for electric vehicles and many metro specific parts that will make metro conversions nicer and easier to convert.
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I finally got the motor and 4.39 tranny out of the other Metro. I have actually had it out for awhile, but I was busy installing the new motor in the other Metro. Anyway, here it is. There is a ton of extra room compared to what I had in the other metro after stuffing a monster motor into it.

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All three motor mounts are original, but I had to come up with a bracket for the passenger side. Since the theme of this ride is lightweight, the bracket is made from 3/8 aluminum plate. I can assure you that 3/8 aluminum plate takes a big plasma cutter, and a big tig welder to work with. Anyway, the bracket weighs very little.

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I would love to just be around this and just watch the thing unfold, I feel like I could learn so much just by watching seeing and being there....*dreams*
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evmetro


The original lower radiator support was designed to hold a radiator, so here is a new one that will be set up with battery trays. It is a little lower, and moved forward for more room for the batteries.

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Here is a closer shot in case anybody is wondering about the welds...

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I could maybe think of doing something like this but never actually manifest it ^o)
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evmetro


I went with aluminum for the lower brace. These two braces will be formed into one battery holder that will double as lower structural brace and battery tray all in one. When I need to pull this battery pack, I will be able to remove the 8 bolts and lower the entire section, complete with a bunch of lithium and drop it out the bottom. I really feel better using aluminum here instead of the steel pictured above this post. Weight is critical for this build, and this aluminum battery tray will be very light.

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You can see where the vertical support that holds the hood latch in bolts up.

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How is that transmission so shiny? Painted, chemically stripped, what?

Your welds are gorgeous... :drool
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evmetro


That is silver paint. It has been this way since I built tevie1, and it is holding up very well. I have roughed this tranny around between the two builds and the scrapes are minimal. There is a little chemical damage on the bottom where one of my axle seals allowed a slow seapage of synchromesh, but I like it so far. Thanks for checking out my ride. I am going the extra mile on this build. I have seen some beautiful pre '95 metros out there, so it will take a lotta love to get this up to my standards. I absolutely love that this thing was done and ready for the scrapyard.
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evmetro
Oct 7 2013, 10:05 PM
I absolutely love that this thing was done and ready for the scrapyard.
Just like Phoenix!
:hmm Little Sister?
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evmetro


I am considering running Apple for the instrument cluster on this conversion. I just set up an Ipad in tevie1, and it works pretty nicely. I have not ripped into the dash yet on this one, but it looks like the front of these earlier dashes is a separate peice. Kinda neat if I need to modify the shape a little.
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Dude I saw a Chevy spark on the road yesterday, I instantly thought, ha I bet that evmetro that one guy made (you) woul walk all over that thing. Plus the pride you take is inspiring.
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Oh yea, that body style of metro IMHO is the sexiest. 95+ to me look weird and the pre 91 things are funny being so square. I like the little squareness.
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Yea, that squareness has got me scratching my head about how to design the front end. When I fabbed the front end of tevie1, my aim was to retain the "roundness" of the 95+, but this one will need a little "squareness" to it to match the look of the car. Usually ground effects kits have many and or big air openings in them, but I will be looking to get that simple clean look while blocking all the air openings. I spend hours plotting the front end of this. Most people who have viewed the front end that I built on tevie1 probably know that whatever I build for this rig is not going to look like anybody elses...
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Mythstae
Jul 26 2013, 10:04 PM
evmetro
Jul 26 2013, 09:28 PM
Mythstae
Jul 26 2013, 02:40 PM
Why "Tevie"? And it's pronounced like "TV", right?
Acronym will be revealed soon. It rhymes with chevy.
:hmm I look forward to the reveal!
:popcorn Still waiting... :popcorn
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Oct 10 2013, 11:10 AM
Yea, that squareness has got me scratching my head about how to design the front end. When I fabbed the front end of tevie1, my aim was to retain the "roundness" of the 95+, but this one will need a little "squareness" to it to match the look of the car. Usually ground effects kits have many and or big air openings in them, but I will be looking to get that simple clean look while blocking all the air openings. I spend hours plotting the front end of this. Most people who have viewed the front end that I built on tevie1 probably know that whatever I build for this rig is not going to look like anybody elses...
And that creative mind and looking your own style is why I think you are a bad ass :rocker
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Here is how the lower tray looks with battery trays in it.

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In the car. Those battery hold downs are bolted in place to simulate having cells loaded in there, so that I can have a reference as I build the upper layer of stuff over the motor and tranny.

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Front Bumper:

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But obviously less ghetto and more professionally fiberglassed onto the actual bumper cover.

It's the perfect blend of squareness and roundness and should reduce the drag coefficient by a little bit. Plus it looks cool. I wish I had a picture of it from further away.
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evmetro


Hydrojim, from my experience on my last bumper, what you have going on there should give you a noticeable improvement on mpg. Does it ever touch the ground?
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I have never once hit the ground and I've had it on for 1000 miles so far. It's 1 inch below the lowest point of the vehicle, so I would probably match it up to your new "radiator" support.

Also, as I'm sure you know, this all depends on your suspension clearance. I'm on stock springs with brand new shocks and no lithium iron phosphate packs weighing down the front.

On a side note, I recently had my dashboard out and I don't remember the two parts of the dash being easy to desperate. But my memory may be foggy...
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Here is the beginning of an upper battery rack. Not done yet, but it will hold 8 cells and lay across the top of the engine compartment. 6061 aluminum and pretty light. The engine compartment has almost enough room for this, but not quite... Might need to re arrange things in there to make this fit.

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Since there is no more hot water to make the heater cor hot in the winter, I use electric heat. I picked up two of these heaters at wal mart. 1500 watts each for a total of 3000 watts to make a Metro as hot as you like inside. I have never had any complaints about how much heat I get out of my regular gas powered Metro, but this conversion does blow hot air within 3 seconds of turning it on in the morning... no more waiting for a thermostat to open.

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Here is what the ceramic element looks like.

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Here I have chopped the sides and water lines off of the original heater core.

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Next, I used windshield urethane to bond the two elements together and fix them into the original heater core frame. The original sides were a little too thick, so I sprayed some mold release agent into the heater box and sandwiched the set up together on the fresh urethane by assembling the two halves of the heater box. You can see the markes from the ribs inside the heater box on the edge closest to you.

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Here they are all wired up, wires for each heater element go out where the original water lines went.

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Last thing is to seal up the gap between the electric elements and the frame of the heater core. This baby is airtight now, and ready to fit my heater box better than a factory heater core.

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Ok, here is the heater box. I wanted the heater to work just like oem, so I put micro switches on the box. In this first pic, the heater knob is all the way to the right, the coldest setting in a Metro.

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In this pic, the heater control is slid to the left until it is just in the red. Switch #1 makes contact and the first heater kicks in, 1500 watts.

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When you slide the knob all the way to the left and hottest setting, switch #2 makes contact and heater #2 kicks in with an additional 1500 watts. with this set up, the heater will work just like any other Metro. No need for a big switch somewhere it does not belong with a sticker on it that says "heat".

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I'm not on the EV forums, but this has to be the nicest craftsmanship, fit-n-finish EV conversion I've seen! Thanks for sharing :-)
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Wow you are leading edge of making things, why make new cars when the earth has billions of cars that could be used. You take pics, you write up, and you keep the project pro. Looks so good man. Are. You like working with a team of engineers ? Lol
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Sweet. I wonder how hot the air is going to be. You should put a temp probe in the vent and take a picture.
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evmetro


You can see a temp probe stuck in the airbox in the tevie1 build thread. I think the probe in that pic says 158 degrees, but it works its way up to 165.
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I had some of this fiberglass honycomb stuff laying around the shop. Incredibly light and strong.

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I built this box for the electronics so I could use less wire and therefore weigh less. This box empty weighs about the same as an empty cardboard box. I usually like to bury the electronics in the quarter panels, but it uses more wire, and I have the added weight of the brackets to hold the stuff in.

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Nice job on the heater, that is some quality engineering. Where is that box going?
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That box is going in the hatch. The lower layer of the hatch space will hold 15 cells and the charger, and that box will take up the top layer. I will trim it in all pretty and such... all the work on this ride is "in the rough".
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Still working on the component box. I have the wifi and bluetooth in place, and the switch/relay panel in place...

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Here is another battery cage that holds 6 cells

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It will fit in this space between the long 8 cell box and the firewall, butted up to the shock tower closest to you. This will bring the total number of these big 200 AH cells squeezed under the hood up to 21, leaving me with a nice 60% front to 40% rear weight ratio for this car.

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Speaking of that long 8 cell box, here is some detail on what holds it where it is, suspended over the motor and tranny. I have two beams that run all the way across from frame rail to frame rail, and here is a pic of the beam closest to the front of the car... The usual steel flange to aluminum beam...

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Here is a pic of how the beam closest to the firewall is mounted. I got away with no steel on the rear beam. Note, when the box is removed, these two support beam stay behind.

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The bolts that hold this rear beam to the frame rail are using existing bolt holes that were already in the frame rails. Here is a lower view.

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So much skill, I am suprised you even drive metros, people like you make bank. I keep reading and learning keep it coming I love the reading and seeing.
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evmetro


Yea, I can afford to drive other vehicle models, but the Metro is my personal car of choice. I could win the lottery, and I would still drive Metros. Just more of them. This Metro that I am building in this thread is one of my dream cars, and the only way I know of to get the exact right car is to build it.
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only way I know of to get the exact right car is to build it

Roger that! :rocker My feelings exactly. ^o) Project is really coming along nicely. :cheers
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Sir, yes sir!

evmetro
Dec 18 2012, 02:57 AM
I picked this guy up from a forum member a few months ago, and he gave me a pretty nice deal, but specified that he did not want it to go to the crusher.

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I love that my old car will see the road again. Not running on gasoline is a bonus!

Keep the pics coming. So much weldporn and fabporn. :drool
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That picture was taken the day I picked it up from you. I wanted to thank you for leaving the new cap and rotor in the glove box, but I don't think they will be going on this ride. Maybe they are the right ones for my 96 3/5 that is still running on gasoline...
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Here is how it looks with the 6 cell cage in there. This is it for the lithium storage, next is figuring out where all the rest of the stuff will go. Not much room to play with.

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Cool handles added to the battery boxes to make them easier to remove. 3/8 aluminum solid round stock.

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I have the electronics box wired up now. Those two devices to the right of the relays are my bluetooth and wifi so that I can view all the data on PC, Ipad, Apple OS, or Android. I am tired of the crap where you have to have an android for this, but an Iphone for that, etc. I want to see my instrumentation on whatever mobile device I have at the time. These wifi and bluetooth signals will broadcast everything I want to know, all the time, and to whatever device I have at that time. The wifi adapter plugs into an OBD2 port that I pulled off a Metro at PNP, but I had to move the wire pins around for CAN hi and Can low since Metros never had CAN.

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Vacuum pump went in today

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So did the vacuum switch and vacuum reservoir. This thing has brakes! Notice that the proportioning valeve for the brake lines is re located into a spot that is a hair closer to the fire wall. There are contours on the firewall and the valve used to be on an "outy" part of the firewall, now it is on an "inny". Needed some more clearence for the battery box.

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Here is the gas tank opened up. Nice place for some electronics, and I can recycle a gasoline part!

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Here is the proposed lay out. Controller, main contactor, and charger. The controller and charger are both water cooled, so I will put the water pump in here as well.

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That's pretty cool. Are you going to seal it back up? Planning on doing anything clever with the filler neck area?
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There is a flange welded to the lower half now, so the lid can be secured with bolts. I will post a pic when it is presentable. It will be nice having the water cooled components and the water pump all mounted inside of this tank. There will still be an in and an out water line that will go out to a radiator or heater core or something to cool the water. I will still need to fan force hot air out of the tank to help cool that charger. Since this Metro is being built to beat the Nissan Leaf in every category possible, that charger is a 70 amp 12, 000 watt unit that will charge this car way faster than the 6, 600 watt Leaf charger. I will definitely need to keep this tank cool with fresh air as well as water cooling.
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The upper tie bar needed a little sheet metal work so that everything looks right when the upper battery box is in place. Just needed a little extra room. It still needs a little fine tuning, but you get the idea.

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Here it is with the upper battery cage in place.

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The fab work is done for the engine compartment, so now it is time to make it look pretty. in this pic, you can see that the holes for the heater core are gone, as well as the holes for the AC. I forget what the big hole was for just to the right of the frame horn, but that one is gone too now. There were also a lot of extra holes bolt and clip holes that I don't need either, so they are gone. The proportioning valve was moved a little closer to the driver side to a recessed portion of the firewall for more clearance, you can see the new mount just up and left of that square piece of sheet metal that covers the heater core holes.

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here is a shot from back a little further. There won't be much to mask off for paint under the hood...

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I am really having a tough time with picking out paint for this rig. I have this feeling that I want to do a color that really grabs attention, but I don't know if it will match the theme of the completed car. Everything that I have done on this build is all about how light can we go, and this model of metro is as light as they come. No sway bars, tiny brakes and a boring interior go very well with the theme, so I wonder if I should pick something not so flashy. I may do a custom bumper up front, but other than that, this thing should look like a bone stock metro on the show room floor when it is done. The only touches I plan on will be some wheels and the standard tint package. Can anybody envision a bold color with this? Or something more blah for a relatively stock looking ride?
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Safety vest yellowy-green :evillol
With some sparklies in the paint, of course...
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evmetro
Mar 12 2014, 09:25 PM
I am really having a tough time with picking out paint for this rig. I have this feeling that I want to do a color that really grabs attention, but I don't know if it will match the theme of the completed car. Everything that I have done on this build is all about how light can we go, and this model of metro is as light as they come. No sway bars, tiny brakes and a boring interior go very well with the theme, so I wonder if I should pick something not so flashy. I may do a custom bumper up front, but other than that, this thing should look like a bone stock metro on the show room floor when it is done. The only touches I plan on will be some wheels and the standard tint package. Can anybody envision a bold color with this? Or something more blah for a relatively stock looking ride?
pm'd you yesterday.

ford has a new deep red that looks pretty cool.???
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Go with your gut. Sounds like you have a theme in mind and already realize what you do or don't want. You're the one turning these things into masterpieces, so use the color you think best represents what you want the entire car to represent.

I know, a lot of "help" that was! lol
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freakin' awesome!!!!!!!!

bright yellow with red and black pin stripes. hardly garish, but something different from the original paint. the cars pretty much all had decal options from the dealer so simple pin striping wouldn't be much of a change from an oem car.

the heater conversion is genius. how long did you think about that? ;)
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evmetro
 
I could win the lottery, and I would still drive Metros. Just more of them.
Amen. :D
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t3ragtop
Mar 13 2014, 12:17 PM

the heater conversion is genius. how long did you think about that? ;)
I spent a bunch of time messing with the heater box controls to come up with that. It looks pretty simple, but it definitely took a lot of thinking. You are clearly one of those people who understands how much time it can take to re engineer something.
Edited by evmetro, Mar 13 2014, 09:18 PM.
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:popcorn :drool
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As far as paint goes, the car is white, what if you painted it like a pearl white or a nice white. You say not flashy, so maybe some thing slightly more than genaric white.
Edited by ZXTjato, Mar 14 2014, 03:40 PM.
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Mar 14 2014, 03:39 PM
As far as paint goes, the car is white, what if you painted it like a pearl white or a nice white. You say not flashy, so maybe some thing slightly more than genaric white.
I was just thinking about that. Maybe a brighter pearl white, not an off white variety. It might give a subtle upgrade over the factory white without drawing too much attention. I have to be careful that the pearl white on a metro doesn't turn it into a girl car though.
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I was just kinda trying to think along the line of white under coating so scratches would be white under. Yellow car with white scratches? Nah. The year of metro you have in my opinion is the masculine of the metro family and the 95-2000 things are the feminine. I only say that because the boxy square ish short stalky build is what I see. As the later models with the sweeping curvs and 3 foot rear lift kit factory move it a perky butt
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^o) Pearl White. :drool

It would help keep it cool in California or Texas. ;)
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I got some primer down in the engine bay. Yeah I still masked something off... I don't know why I bothered masking off the brake lines since I will be bending new lines to fit the new location of the proportioning valve

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I left the welds showing except the ones where the box tubing is welded to the car. Kinda smoothed that section in.

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Here is a closer shot of the fire wall. Lots of holes no longer there, most people probably would not recognize this firewall as being custom, but that is the idea. It is quite a bit different from stock.

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The upper tie bar is easier to identify the custom work.

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Here is the same shot from further out to clarify

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Edited by evmetro, Mar 27 2014, 10:22 PM.
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looking good!
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ZXTjato
Mar 14 2014, 03:39 PM
As far as paint goes, the car is white, what if you painted it like a pearl white or a nice white. You say not flashy, so maybe some thing slightly more than genaric white.
I was just thinking about that. Maybe a brighter pearl white, not an off white variety. It might give a subtle upgrade over the factory white without drawing too much attention. I have to be careful that the pearl white on a metro doesn't turn it into a girl car though.
Loving the Pearl white idea, maybe even a Mother of Pearl!?!? Perhaps making all the pillars and the rocker panels black would give it a more masculine appearance while making the roof appear to float. Not sure how to blend it at the hood/windshield junction but something to think about...
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idmetro
Mar 28 2014, 08:33 AM
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Mar 14 2014, 04:39 PM
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Mar 14 2014, 03:39 PM
As far as paint goes, the car is white, what if you painted it like a pearl white or a nice white. You say not flashy, so maybe some thing slightly more than genaric white.
I was just thinking about that. Maybe a brighter pearl white, not an off white variety. It might give a subtle upgrade over the factory white without drawing too much attention. I have to be careful that the pearl white on a metro doesn't turn it into a girl car though.
Loving the Pearl white idea, maybe even a Mother of Pearl!?!? Perhaps making all the pillars and the rocker panels black would give it a more masculine appearance while making the roof appear to float. Not sure how to blend it at the hood/windshield junction but something to think about...
I like te addition of black in there. Some rich deep black color on the white would look really good.
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I usually refuse to sand anything on a car without a block, but there is nowhere under the hood that I can use a block. This is all very tedious work with only my fingers for a block. It has to have primer, sand, and then primer sand again to achieve professional results so my finger prints are worn off....


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How bout those finger slip things I see mail people use? Like a glove for one finger. May help the single finger soreness?
Edited by ZXTjato, Mar 29 2014, 09:14 PM.
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I just got the front hubs back from the machine shop. I played it safe and had a machine shop upgrade my hubs from 10 mm to 12 mm.

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Just got back from the paint store. I made a spur of the moment choice and went for "white". Just the toner with no drops of this or that in it to make a recipe for a a different shade of white, no color code, just white. In the spirit of the Metro community and the thrifty theme, I bought single stage. I used to shoot single stage when I was an aircraft painter in the Navy, but I have not done cars like this. You just mix it up, and shoot it, and it dries shiny. No clear coat stage. If I decide sometime that I need some pearl, I can stir some dry pearl into a cup of clear and add it later, but for now it will simply be white. I got out of the paint store for under 500 bucks with a gallon of my "white" (that is the whole technical name for this color), a quart of "black", all the reducers and hardeners, a few rolls of tape, a pair of charcoal filters for me to breathe through, and a pack of scotchbrite. The "black" (yep, just black toner) will be for misc suspension parts, the "gas"tank that houses a bunch of electronics, and who knows what else... I actually feel excited about doing a budget paint job on this one, but doing it right.
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Just "black" and just "white" wow I think that will look real good, some times the simple things are the best.
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I am glad to have the paint here now, since my mind changes like the wind. If I had to think about it for another day, I might scrap the whole white thing altogether and be looking at blues and red again. White it is. If all goes well, I should have pics of a white engine compartment posted here this evening or tomorrow. I have to play around with the paint guns a little to find out which one I want to use since I don't have any experience with this particular paint. I will try the 1.3 needle first since I think that will be the best and then just keep shooting if I like it.
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I was betting on another blue one.
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OK, the engine bay is white. I ended up with a little more texture than I like, but it will work.

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Here is a CA style frame horn.

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Still a lot of holes that I did not fill, but I am not sure yet if I am going to run the factory fuse box or not and I have not decided if I want to use the factory bracket that I left for the coolant bottle or if the coolant bottle will go in the hatch.

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going to be set up with regenerative braking?? I always wondered why a lot of the early electric cars didn't use it.. we had variable freq drives that used it years ago
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Yeah, this one is three phase AC so it will have brake regen. The motor and controller in this rig came out of the second car in my signature, so I know it well, and know how the regen will feel in here. I upgraded the motor in my other electric metro to a larger one so I had this one available for this build.
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Wow! That engine bay is so clean I would be afraid to drive it for fear I might contaminate it. Looks fabulous!
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You have mad bodywork/paint skills. That is looking killer sweet.
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Thanks for the good words. It will be a little while yet befor I paint the rest of the car because I want to build up the front suspension and install the motor, transmission, and batteries in the engine bay before I move on to making the rest of the chassis pretty.
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