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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 14 2013, 02:15 PM (4,229 Views) | |
| nerys | Feb 15 2013, 03:21 PM Post #31 |
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ALPINE you craphead. I would KILL for one of those. Drool Drool Bzzzzts dammit another keyboard. hehehe and in such NICE condition too. so not fair :-) as for the TRC of my metro. I don't know. the reason its easy to calculate (and compare) the TRC on a new car is you can ignore most repairs and maintenance. with a 19 year old used car you can't ignore that. what I CAN tell you is that in 61,435 miles that I have put on my metro I have spent $4967 dollars total for everything including purchase tags title registration and inspection every year and every drop of fuel I have put in it. (I track everything right down to the screws I got for the license plate) and this includes my custom stainless header and other "extra's" that have nothing to do with the reliable operation of the car. seems pretty darned good to me :-) and your time is NOT WORTH $20 an hour. you get payed for your WORK not your TIME. don't believe me? try sitting around at work for the "time" and not doing anything see how long you have a job. You can not BANK TIME. you can't add it up. you can't take the 5 minutes you saved yesterday and add it to the 5 minutes you saved today. once its gone its gone. period. poof. out of here. MONEY on the other hand you CAN save up. YOU CAN add it. you CAN bank it and money "CAN" buy you TIME. and I call BS on saving 20 minutes by going 15mph faster unless you commute is an extremely rare special circumstance. I drive 54 miles to work. it takes me 1 hour 27 minutes to get to work the way I drive. going 5 over the limit it takes 1 hour 23 minutes. a 4 minute difference. that is a max speed 10mph difference. 50mph speed limit I drive 45mph max. MAX speed does not determine your ETA. AVERAGE speed does. and increasing my max speed by 10mph did not even increase my average speed by 2-3mph. if the risk of a $500 to $1500 ticket (that is right you are beyond speeding and into reckless driving territory and courts just LOVE that. kaching. :-) hehe and thousands on your insurance are "worth" going that fast. good on you. then saving money is NOT important to you since several hundred percent of your time savings goes POOF the first time a cop rapes your butt. Edited by nerys, Feb 15 2013, 03:22 PM.
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| krochus | Feb 15 2013, 11:48 PM Post #32 |
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It pains me to say this as a Toyota owner (XB and tundra) but as a group Toyota owners are the most automotively clueless people on the planet. This is why its assumed that 4 or 5 hours of $75 an hour repairs are required a month. For them that's the only possibility. An $800 metro that gets 50 MPG saves money. There's no math out there that makes a $23,000 car that gets 45 save money |
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| Brewmaster | Feb 16 2013, 12:11 AM Post #33 |
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I find it funny that he thinks the toyota is safer, did anyone see toyota's settlement last month. |
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| HelterSkelter | Feb 16 2013, 12:36 AM Post #34 |
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you're crazy dude, prius' are way faster than a geo. the current model has over 3 times the power of a geo. the extra weight doesn't matter that much, they are gonna be faster. |
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| Tinker1980 | Feb 16 2013, 01:32 AM Post #35 |
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They aren't enough faster to justify that price tag. I have been thinking about this debate, and I'm going to get myself flamed here, BUT it's the way I was raised. Not consciously raised to think this, just raised in that sort of environment. But here is what I have been thinking - If you are UNABLE to figure out why your metro won't start, if you are unable to tell that it's about to give you trouble, if you are unable to repair such a staggeringly simple car even with the power of the internet in the palm of your hand, If, in fact, you are even unable to change the oil in a car, or change a tire, or check oil, or check tire pressures, but you need power locks, windows, etc etc etc well guess what. YOU are what's wrong with America. Someone earlier asked to put a price on the peace of mind knowing your car will start. I ask, what is the price of the peace of mind, the confidence, to know that you are capable enough to find out why the car won't start, and then get the car to start, no matter what? How much is that worth? |
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| Cobrajet25 | Feb 16 2013, 02:00 AM Post #36 |
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Ever actually driven one? Are they FASTER in terms of top speed? Yes. But they are as slow off the line as a Metro. Guess that is what I meant. They accelerate like a big, dumb, heavy, electric brick. Which they are. |
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| Cobrajet25 | Feb 16 2013, 02:12 AM Post #37 |
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The only difference between a new car that won't start and a used car that won't start is who fixes it. And sometimes new cars don't start. A new car, the dealer fixes. A used car, you fix or pay to have fixed. Are new cars generally more reliable than used cars? Sure, but honestly it depends on the car and it's owner. But that kind of "security" ain't free, or even cheap nowadays. I have just as much faith in my 18-year-old, 200k mile car as the guy who just bought one new off the lot for $27,000 at 8% interest. Why? BECAUSE I PERSONALLY REBUILT THE DAMNED THING! Which offers more security..trusting in someone else's abilities, or being confident in your own?
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| nerys | Feb 16 2013, 09:51 AM Post #38 |
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actually if the prius was "electric" as you say it would HAUL ASS off the line. one of the quality of electric is tons of torque and acceleration. go test drive a leaf or a miev and then tell me they are slow off the line. when it comes to acceleration (NOT top speed) they will give any V8 a run for their money. IIRC a prius is a whimpy little 3cylk engine and a super wimpy little electric motor (tiny battery pack 3 mile range fully charges if you take it easy) so yes its wimpy. IT IS NOT comparable to "electric bricks" those kick butt. |
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| McZukee | Feb 16 2013, 11:02 AM Post #39 |
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There's too many unique issues beyond price and mpg for either side to win this argument: safety, fun, style, repairability, just to name a few. After owning six metros over the last 23 years my position (read: habit) is simple. I'll never come across a Prius for a few hundred bucks and elevate it to the dependability of an economical and trusted daily driver for just a few hundred dollars more, over a couple of weekends. |
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| Old Man | Feb 16 2013, 01:06 PM Post #40 |
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----THE WINNER---- I'll never come across a Prius for a few hundred bucks and elevate it to the dependability of an economical and trusted daily driver for just a few hundred dollars more, over a couple of weekends. |
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| Tinker1980 | Feb 16 2013, 01:42 PM Post #41 |
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Exactly. Thread is over
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| Tim Keith | Feb 16 2013, 03:54 PM Post #42 |
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The Metro as with many late model beaters has a reputation for being relatively dependable even when well worn if you pay close attention to basics. Monitor oil levels and coolant and a Metro will keep going for many miles. Whatever fundamentals that the Prius has, the costly batteries puts them into the not so cheap beater class. There are many clean relatively low mileage Prius on the cheap wheels section of used car lots because they need new batteries. I've been considering a VW TDI swap into one of my Datsun trucks. That would get 50 MPG yet maintenance is much more costly than a G10. Any car that is paid for that you can maintain yourself will generally be low cost compared to any car that is new. The Prius is a good car, but batteries stink. |
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| Cobb | Feb 16 2013, 07:29 PM Post #43 |
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Depending on how you drive vehicle weight doesnt effect mpg. I owned a geo, cost 100 to buy, a dollar a mile to drive. After 4 grand I sold it to a mechanic for 750. I felt like the owner in TX and many times considered taking a baseball bat to all the glass and sheet metal. I think those were the 2 happiest days of my life owning a geo, the day I purchased it and the day I sold it. Ive paid like 4 grand on my Insight loan and gone 70 thousand trouble free miles.
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| Coche Blanco | Feb 16 2013, 07:43 PM Post #44 |
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I'm sorry you got screwed on your Geo, but your story is an outlier in the be scheme of Geos.
Edited by Coche Blanco, Feb 16 2013, 07:44 PM.
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| Coche Blanco | Feb 16 2013, 07:45 PM Post #45 |
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Which offers more security..trusting in someone else's abilities, or being confident in your own?
Ive paid like 4 grand on my Insight loan and gone 70 thousand trouble free miles.

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