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Difference between XFI and base Metro?
Topic Started: Feb 16 2013, 03:06 PM (657 Views)
bonehead
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Can anyone tell me the difference between the 94 XFI and "base" Metro and how can you identify which one you have?
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differential ratio--cam--pistons are a few things.

each one would have to be investigated individually. after 20+ years many people have swapped many things--hard to find a 'true' XFI.
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I got into a discussion recently on this forum expressing my initial disbelief about the absurdly high mileage numbers some people get out of their 3/5 metros. My original 94 Metro (bought new) only got about 550 km (340 miles) per tank under the worst kind of short trip "stop and go" city driving conditions. Could it be that my somewhat low mileage numbers were because I was driving a base model and the people getting high mileage here are driving XFI's?
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P.s. Are there any advantages to the base model and can it compare to the XFI for mileage?
Edited by bonehead, Feb 16 2013, 03:56 PM.
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thats a wide open question that demands a wide open answer.

people do MANY things to get more miles per gallon.
hard to list them all. things such as eliminating one windshield wiper, eleminating outside rear view mirrors, blocking off front air entrance, cutting off 3 inches of the rear bumper, adding front and rear fender skirts, removing passenger and rear seats--everything you can think of that would reduce weight and reduce air resistance.-----and learning how to drive for gas mileage

twenty year old cars have been modified in many ways. you cant compare an XFI to a Base to an LSI because NONE are stock anymore
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bonehead
Feb 16 2013, 03:54 PM
I got into a discussion recently on this forum expressing my initial disbelief about the absurdly high mileage numbers some people get out of their 3/5 metros. My original 94 Metro (bought new) only got about 550 km (340 miles) per tank under the worst kind of short trip "stop and go" city driving conditions. Could it be that my somewhat low mileage numbers were because I was driving a base model and the people getting high mileage here are driving XFI's?
1. Saying it only got 550 km doesn't help because you could still have lots of gas left in the tank.
2. Stop and go city conditions vs. highway driving makes a huge difference. When I drive to school it takes me 20 min to drive 7km and I'm lucky to get 40 mpg (imperial) compared to 60+ mpg (imperial) driving mostly highway.
3. To turn your base into an xfi, see Coche Blanco's thread HERE
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I have a 94 Base model. My mods are 175/70/13" tires, passenger mirror delete, added front airdam, 3Tech econo cam with advanced timing cam sprocket and lowered on one coil cut Suzuki GT springs. No other economy mods other than the addition of a vacuum gauge. Still have the original 4.10 transmission, not the XFI 3.79.

The mods have been done over the time I have owned the car so my mileage has been getting better as time goes on. In the 30k miles I have driven it mostly in the cold winter weather (I park it for the summer and drive my vert) my average has been 4.8L/100km, 49mpg U.S., 59mpg Imp. That is lifetime average. My best tanks have been well below 4L/100. My best being 3.7L/100, 64mpg U.S., 75mpg Imp.

The answer as to whether an XFI is better is meh, who cares? I doubt very much if I would have done much better with an XFI. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to find one over a good condition Base model. I am currently averaging good enough mileage to bring my lifetime above 50mpg U.S., 60mpg Imp. I have added sensor tricks and am working on other mods.

The reason most peoples mileage is so "bad" is driving habits. You will not get anywhere near the mileage the car is capable of till you add driver aids to teach you how to drive economically and make use of them. MPGuino and vacuum gauges FTW.

If you decide to dump your Base model in favor of an XFI and the body is solid there will be someone happy to take it off your hands and get 60+mpg out of it. :wub:
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After a little more research I'm thinking the base may actually be the best for me. To me the beauty of the Metros I've owned has always been the balance of "peppiness" (in terms of acceleration) and good mileage. I'm not sure I'd want to give of that "zip" that I get off the line, particularly in the city where that's the only aspect of "performance" that has any real practical value (cornering and top end speed are of little use in a large metropolitan centre).
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razr769
Feb 16 2013, 05:00 PM
1. Saying it only got 550 km doesn't help because you could still have lots of gas left in the tank.
2. Stop and go city conditions vs. highway driving makes a huge difference. When I drive to school it takes me 20 min to drive 7km and I'm lucky to get 40 mpg (imperial) compared to 60+ mpg (imperial) driving mostly highway.
3. To turn your base into an xfi, see Coche Blanco's thread HERE

Hey Rzr769, are those 13" mags you're sporting? They're nice!
Edited by bonehead, Feb 16 2013, 05:39 PM.
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XFI has taller gears and a low rpm cam and will get about 5 mpg more in most conditions. Pure city driving is probably the only exception. XFI's came with all black bumpers, no trim below the rear quarter windows, and MS in the VIN #.

As razr769 said, "per tank" is meaningless because most people fill the tank at 8 gallons, but it will hold 11. When I had my 89, I NEVER went less than 500 miles per tank. With all four of my GEN3 (95-01) cars, 400 to 450 miles was the norm. Keep in mind that I NEVER bought less than ten gallons of gas.

The single most important factor controlling your gas mileage is the way you drive. This is a combination of you yourself and your driving habits, and the nature of your regular commute. If you sprint away from lights and stay on the gas until the last minute before smashing the brake, you're not going to get good mileage. Also, if you're stuck in town going light to light, you're not going to get good mileage.

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