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Blew my engine up...
Topic Started: May 18 2013, 12:17 PM (1,612 Views)
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Mythstae
May 19 2013, 12:04 AM
$800 is the old price.
The price now is $1555 exchange, plus $250 installation, and delivery is 13 cents a mile, round trip.
Damn!! Womens influence always screws a good thing up.................. :lol
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Old Man
May 19 2013, 12:14 AM
Mythstae
May 19 2013, 12:04 AM
$800 is the old price.
The price now is $1555 exchange, plus $250 installation, and delivery is 13 cents a mile, round trip.
Damn!! Womens influence always screws a good thing up.................. :lol
13 cents a mile is good price, I don't hitch my truck up to a load unless it's at least $1.25 a loaded mile which I sometimes snag a load on way back to double dip.
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Mythstae
May 19 2013, 12:04 AM
Airsmithy
May 18 2013, 02:05 PM
The local to me pick n pulls are about $150 for a used motor. Geo Glenn rebuilds for (I THINK) about $800 plus delivery and does an outstanding job. You have a few options, good luck!
$800 is the old price.
The price now is $1555 exchange, plus $250 installation, and delivery is 13 cents a mile, round trip.
:gp

Every core engine gets bored oversize, the connecting rods resized, the crankshaft ground, and 67 new Suzuki parts from Japan, among other things. Very tight new limits.

Mythstae's new engine just turned over 1,000 miles since overhaul. She scored 43.5 MPG on a high speed highway run from Southern Washington to Southern Oregon and back today.

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Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 12:32 AM
Mythstae
May 19 2013, 12:04 AM
Airsmithy
May 18 2013, 02:05 PM
The local to me pick n pulls are about $150 for a used motor. Geo Glenn rebuilds for (I THINK) about $800 plus delivery and does an outstanding job. You have a few options, good luck!
$800 is the old price.
The price now is $1555 exchange, plus $250 installation, and delivery is 13 cents a mile, round trip.
:gp

Every core engine gets bored oversize, the connecting rods resized, the crankshaft ground, and 67 new Suzuki parts from Japan, among other things. Very tight new limits.

Mythstae's new engine just turned over 1,000 miles since overhaul. She scored 43.5 MPG on a high speed highway run from Southern Washington to Southern Oregon and back today.

How well did it climb the mountains and what tire size was she running, auto or stick shift and what transmission geared at?
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ace.of_alltrades
May 19 2013, 03:10 AM
Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 12:32 AM
Mythstae
May 19 2013, 12:04 AM
Airsmithy
May 18 2013, 02:05 PM
The local to me pick n pulls are about $150 for a used motor. Geo Glenn rebuilds for (I THINK) about $800 plus delivery and does an outstanding job. You have a few options, good luck!
$800 is the old price.
The price now is $1555 exchange, plus $250 installation, and delivery is 13 cents a mile, round trip.
:gp

Every core engine gets bored oversize, the connecting rods resized, the crankshaft ground, and 67 new Suzuki parts from Japan, among other things. Very tight new limits.

Mythstae's new engine just turned over 1,000 miles since overhaul. She scored 43.5 MPG on a high speed highway run from Southern Washington to Southern Oregon and back today.

How well did it climb the mountains and what tire size was she running, auto or stick shift and what transmission geared at?
Driving up a 6% grade beats the hell out of walking. :deal

175/70R13. 4.10 manual transmission. 55 up one of them in 4th, WOT. No pinging. Base ignition timing set to 5 degrees BTDC. 63 up the other in 4th at a little less than WOT.
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Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 01:22 PM
ace.of_alltrades
May 19 2013, 03:10 AM
Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 12:32 AM
Mythstae
May 19 2013, 12:04 AM

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:gp

Every core engine gets bored oversize, the connecting rods resized, the crankshaft ground, and 67 new Suzuki parts from Japan, among other things. Very tight new limits.

Mythstae's new engine just turned over 1,000 miles since overhaul. She scored 43.5 MPG on a high speed highway run from Southern Washington to Southern Oregon and back today.

How well did it climb the mountains and what tire size was she running, auto or stick shift and what transmission geared at?
Driving up a 6% grade beats the hell out of walking. :deal

175/70R13. 4.10 manual transmission. 55 up one of them in 4th, WOT. No pinging. Base ignition timing set to 5 degrees BTDC. 63 up the other in 4th at a little less than WOT.
Well if that is after a engine rebuild in which you bored the engine over and had the head reworked then I better stick with the 4:39 transmission I am putting in.
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May 19 2013, 02:23 PM
Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 01:22 PM
ace.of_alltrades
May 19 2013, 03:10 AM
Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 12:32 AM

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How well did it climb the mountains and what tire size was she running, auto or stick shift and what transmission geared at?
Driving up a 6% grade beats the hell out of walking. :deal

175/70R13. 4.10 manual transmission. 55 up one of them in 4th, WOT. No pinging. Base ignition timing set to 5 degrees BTDC. 63 up the other in 4th at a little less than WOT.
Well if that is after a engine rebuild in which you bored the engine over and had the head reworked then I better stick with the 4:39 transmission I am putting in.
Your car is a '93. Mine is a '96.
Also, it's overbored to 0.040" over. Not 0.020" over (any more...)
I've driven a 4.39. :x I don't like them. I prefer my 4.10.
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Just curious, how come so much inflation from the old price to the new price? Almost double. What can you get for the old price now?
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Big Rhino
May 19 2013, 03:21 PM
Just curious, how come so much inflation from the old price to the new price? Almost double. What can you get for the old price now?
It's not inflation. I put $500 for labor on the top line, just like I always have. The rest is machine shop labor and parts at cost.

When the bores are worn, you get new pistons.

When the crankshaft and bearings are worn, you get the crankshaft ground and undersize bearings.

All of the connecting rods are resized.

100% of the hardware is replaced.

Everything gets a trip through the ultrasonic cleaner.

Lots of new OEM parts from Japan.

The last DIY overhaul that I replaced had 32,000 miles since rings and a valve job. It was pumping a quart of oil every 400 miles.

You get what you pay for.

If you're serious about getting an engine that will last for a very long time, it's going to cost a bit more than $400 in parts and machine shop service.

The $850 engines are a thing of the past, unless you happen to have a low mileage engine that some little old lady drove to Church on Sunday and the grocery store.

Anything engine you put together will run. For how long, and how well? Who knows.
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Did the 800 dollar engines get machine work and parts at cost? Just not understanding where the differance in price is comming from if its not inflation and the same work being done. Oh help me understand. Were the 800 dollar price engines inferior to the new price engines? Differant parts and differant machine work?


Ok after going back and reading it again, I see that the 800 dollar rebuilds did not get what we could consider a quality rebuild of new parts and machine work to the extent of the new price engines. If I understand it correctly. I can understand the later point as to if you want it done right, it is going to cost some money. I can understand that and that being the case, I can fully understand the new price and the installation charge with it, is well reasonable. Bottom line is your rebuild procedures have changed when the price changed. More extensive work is being done and it cost more. I can understand that. I am sure you build a good engine for the new price and the installation price is good also. I believe for anyone who needs a engine in their geo its a deal..

Rock on Glenn. May your camels always have plenty of water to drink.


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Big Rhino
May 19 2013, 03:59 PM
Did the 800 dollar engines get machine work and parts at cost? Just not understanding where the differance in price is comming from if its not inflation and the same work being done. Oh help me understand. Were the 800 dollar price engines inferior to the new price engines? Differant parts and differant machine work?


Ok after going back and reading it again, I see that the 800 dollar rebuilds did not get what we could consider a quality rebuild of new parts and machine work to the extent of the new price engines. If I understand it correctly. I can understand the later point as to if you want it done right, it is going to cost some money. I can understand that and that being the case, I can fully understand the new price and the installation charge with it, is well reasonable. Bottom line is your rebuild procedures have changed when the price changed. More extensive work is being done and it cost more. I can understand that. I am sure you build a good engine for the new price and the installation price is good also. I believe for anyone who needs a engine in their geo its a deal..

Rock on Glenn. May your camels always have plenty of water to drink.


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There has never been anything inferior in the engines that I have sold. The machine shop got to do what was needed on the block, head and crankshaft. They are all still in service, some of them with several tens of thousands of miles on them.

Lately, the quality of the cores have become more in need of additional parts and machine shop work.

As a matter of fact, I just pulled the camshaft out of one of the recent cores. The previous quick and dirty overhaul had more of an emphasis on dirty. The camshaft bearing surfaces in the head and on the camshaft got debris circulated through them, rendering them beyond practical repair. 15 pounds of aluminum and steel for the scrap pile, and off to the Pick-n-Pull for another head off of an unmolested G10.

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Mythstae
May 19 2013, 02:37 PM
ace.of_alltrades
May 19 2013, 02:23 PM
Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 01:22 PM
ace.of_alltrades
May 19 2013, 03:10 AM

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Driving up a 6% grade beats the hell out of walking. :deal

175/70R13. 4.10 manual transmission. 55 up one of them in 4th, WOT. No pinging. Base ignition timing set to 5 degrees BTDC. 63 up the other in 4th at a little less than WOT.
Well if that is after a engine rebuild in which you bored the engine over and had the head reworked then I better stick with the 4:39 transmission I am putting in.
Your car is a '93. Mine is a '96.
Also, it's overbored to 0.040" over. Not 0.020" over (any more...)
I've driven a 4.39. :x I don't like them. I prefer my 4.10.
My old one is 93 I forgot to update that as I got a 96 here that is where the 4:39 came from and I plan on taking more steep mountains than 6% grade try 7% to 10% getting up there. I am not speed demon but damn climbing a 7% grade and up across bare land with head wind is going to kill me having a 4:10, it's what I run across a lot after I pass over the Rockies coming into Wyoming or if I take the Utah route instead. What cam grind are you running, the max?
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Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 05:17 PM
They are all still in service, some of them with several tens of thousands of miles on them.

Mines still purring, even with me still flat out beating the shit out of it, a little over 45k miles later, still running good.
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May 19 2013, 09:09 PM
Mines still purring, even with me still flat out beating the shit out of it, a little over 45k miles later, still running good.
Mine too!
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May 19 2013, 07:47 PM
Mythstae
May 19 2013, 02:37 PM
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May 19 2013, 02:23 PM
Geo Glenn
May 19 2013, 01:22 PM

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Well if that is after a engine rebuild in which you bored the engine over and had the head reworked then I better stick with the 4:39 transmission I am putting in.
Your car is a '93. Mine is a '96.
Also, it's overbored to 0.040" over. Not 0.020" over (any more...)
I've driven a 4.39. :x I don't like them. I prefer my 4.10.
My old one is 93 I forgot to update that as I got a 96 here that is where the 4:39 came from and I plan on taking more steep mountains than 6% grade try 7% to 10% getting up there. I am not speed demon but damn climbing a 7% grade and up across bare land with head wind is going to kill me having a 4:10, it's what I run across a lot after I pass over the Rockies coming into Wyoming or if I take the Utah route instead. What cam grind are you running, the max?
Standard cam.

For now. :evillol :nfs
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