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Thermostat housing leak after thermostat change; Not sure if I got the right part.
Topic Started: Oct 24 2013, 04:30 AM (3,459 Views)
Old Man


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Oct 24 2013, 01:25 PM
Old Man
Oct 24 2013, 11:20 AM
I don't know anyone named greens that is boring. I do know Bad Bent. I don't care if ole greenie gets credit or not. I do care that BB took the time and effort to help the forum in general, aint seen ole greenie in here helping at all
Perhaps you should look harder.
look for what--I don't have a problem giving credit to one who has helped. You have the problem of giving credit to one who has never helped. Maybe you should look at your priorities and learn how to help friends instead of un knowns.
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my 95 has the seal around the thermostat and I believe it also has the gasket on the housing and I have swapped thermostats on 5 or six occasions with no leaks-that's even without changing the gasket or the seal I still have my brand new spares-
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ptcapboy
Oct 24 2013, 02:46 PM
my 95 has the seal around the thermostat and I believe it also has the gasket on the housing and I have swapped thermostats on 5 or six occasions with no leaks-that's even without changing the gasket or the seal I still have my brand new spares-
sometimes it will just seep when the engine is hot and the leak evaporates before you know it. If you start getting just a little bit low on coolant every couple of days then let the car get really warm, leave it running and wipe the bottom edge of the thermostat housing with your bare finger. If its damp then its time to reseal.
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Old Man
Oct 24 2013, 02:18 PM
look for what--I don't have a problem giving credit to one who has helped. You have the problem of giving credit to one who has never helped. Maybe you should look at your priorities and learn how to help friends instead of un knowns.
Someone intellectual created that content, they invented that work-around, and they posted it on the web to share for others benefit.

Both legally and morally it should be cited, a skill everyone learned in school, but is unfortunately lost online.

For the record, this individual, she, is very active on GMF.



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Oct 24 2013, 03:26 PM
Old Man
Oct 24 2013, 02:18 PM
look for what--I don't have a problem giving credit to one who has helped. You have the problem of giving credit to one who has never helped. Maybe you should look at your priorities and learn how to help friends instead of un knowns.
Someone intellectual created that content, they invented that work-around, and they posted it on the web to share for others benefit.

Both legally and morally it should be cited, a skill everyone learned in school, but is unfortunately lost online.

For the record, this individual, she, is very active on GMF.



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Picking a fight with Old Man? He's got nothing better to do. Read his signature. It's in his objectives to offend everyone, and if he hasn't done a good job, please let him know so that he can try harder.

I always blame the Neon thermostat seal on Old Man. He denies that it was his idea, and passes the blame to Bad Bent. Bad Bent is like the rest of us. Doesn't care where the idea came from, only that it works.

So, as acknowledgment of your discovery of the Neon thermostat seal, ascensions, thank you very much. We can now officially blame it on you. :evillol

Now, if someone could get Big Rhino to stop posting to use the crap ass seal of inadequateness with a gasket, and that permanant crap of brown stickeness known as Indian Head Gasket Shellac, that will be the day worthy of an official GMF Holiday.

I now return you to yet another thread of worthless argument about the best way to install a thermostat with a seal.

Thank you, davegran, to take the time to document and post my installation of the thermostat on your engine using the method that was originally developed and posted by ascensions on some random website of randomness that no one has ever heard of, except Bad Bent, who isn't ever going to give her any credit.

http://greensboring.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14178

GG out. :news

davegran
Oct 21 2013, 09:59 PM
Back in September when my wife & I made the pilgrimage to Washington state, the land of rust-free Geos, we stopped in Missouri first to get a rebuilt head that Geo Glenn had put together for our red '95 3/5.

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It was to replace this one.... We discovered at the Minnesota Metro Meet that the compression was, cyl#1 - 180psi, cyl#2 - 70psi, cyl#3 - 120psi. :smackface

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While we were installing it at his place, I caught some pictures of the process. Here is how he made sure the thermostat wouldn't leak. First he put a little bit of Ultra-Gray RTV on the flange of the water outlet.

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Then he put the THM1105 seal from NAPA and the 180* thermostat into the housing with the dribble valve at 6 o-clock.
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And when he torqued it down, just the tiniest little bead of Ultra-Gray extruded out of the joint. Perfect seal... Thanks, Glenn.
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Wendell
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Oct 24 2013, 04:51 PM
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Oct 24 2013, 03:26 PM
Old Man
Oct 24 2013, 02:18 PM
look for what--I don't have a problem giving credit to one who has helped. You have the problem of giving credit to one who has never helped. Maybe you should look at your priorities and learn how to help friends instead of un knowns.
Someone intellectual created that content, they invented that work-around, and they posted it on the web to share for others benefit.

Both legally and morally it should be cited, a skill everyone learned in school, but is unfortunately lost online.

For the record, this individual, she, is very active on GMF.



:lol

Picking a fight with Old Man? He's got nothing better to do. Read his signature. It's in his objectives to offend everyone, and if he hasn't done a good job, please let him know so that he can try harder.

I always blame the Neon thermostat seal on Old Man. He denies that it was his idea, and passes the blame to Bad Bent. Bad Bent is like the rest of us. Doesn't care where the idea came from, only that it works.

So, as acknowledgment of your discovery of the Neon thermostat seal, ascensions, thank you very much. We can now officially blame it on you. :evillol

Now, if someone could get Big Rhino to stop posting to use the crap ass seal of inadequateness with a gasket, and that permanant crap of brown stickeness known as Indian Head Gasket Shellac, that will be the day worthy of an official GMF Holiday.

I now return you to yet another thread of worthless argument about the best way to install a thermostat with a seal.

Thank you, davegran, to take the time to document and post my installation of the thermostat on your engine using the method that was originally developed and posted by ascensions on some random website of randomness that no one has ever heard of, except Bad Bent, who isn't ever going to give her any credit.

http://greensboring.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14178

GG out. :news

davegran
Oct 21 2013, 09:59 PM
Back in September when my wife & I made the pilgrimage to Washington state, the land of rust-free Geos, we stopped in Missouri first to get a rebuilt head that Geo Glenn had put together for our red '95 3/5.

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It was to replace this one.... We discovered at the Minnesota Metro Meet that the compression was, cyl#1 - 180psi, cyl#2 - 70psi, cyl#3 - 120psi. :smackface

Posted Image

While we were installing it at his place, I caught some pictures of the process. Here is how he made sure the thermostat wouldn't leak. First he put a little bit of Ultra-Gray RTV on the flange of the water outlet.

Posted Image

Then he put the THM1105 seal from NAPA and the 180* thermostat into the housing with the dribble valve at 6 o-clock.
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And when he torqued it down, just the tiniest little bead of Ultra-Gray extruded out of the joint. Perfect seal... Thanks, Glenn.
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Awesome. Photos and a part number! I can do this. Give someone lots of credit. My old thermostat looks like the one in the photo but the new one does not have the weep valve on it. I want one like that. Do you have a part number on it?
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evintho


I don't have the weep hole either! I just installed it with the Neon seal. We'll see how it goes.
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Oct 24 2013, 07:18 AM
I highly recommend the Dodge Neon thermostat seal. It's fat and beefy and provides a much better seal than stock.

As originally suggested by BadBent:
http://geometroforum.com/topic/5015643/1/

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"If you find any water or moisture, go to Autozone (or similar) and ask for Fel Pro part # 35588. (Federal Mogul). [1.615" ID/1.989" OD - .25" thick ] Place thermostat in the seal. (Seal's inner diameter is slightly over-sized on the thermostat, but it works just fine.) Then equally compress the two housing bolts till sealed."
-Mr. Bent
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Awesome write up. You should go finish giving me gas mileage tips now. :D
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Oct 24 2013, 06:32 PM
I don't have the weep hole either! I just installed it with the Neon seal. We'll see how it goes.
After reading the really good but controversial neon article I have decided that the hole may not be the best idea.
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I went with the Neon gasket because autozone was on my way home from work. I used silicone grease on it because that is what i use on all my rubber parts when I do any kind of plumbing. It worked great! Thanks for all the feedback.
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Oct 24 2013, 03:26 PM
Old Man
Oct 24 2013, 02:18 PM
look for what--I don't have a problem giving credit to one who has helped. You have the problem of giving credit to one who has never helped. Maybe you should look at your priorities and learn how to help friends instead of un knowns.
Someone intellectual created that content, they invented that work-around, and they posted it on the web to share for others benefit.

Both legally and morally it should be cited, a skill everyone learned in school, but is unfortunately lost online.

For the record, this individual, she, is very active on GMF.
I find myself curious how, when it was posted on some other website, with some other screen name not the same as the one you have here, heck, not even the same location listed, we were supposed to know that that was you that posted it originally? :hmm

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Mythstae
Oct 27 2013, 04:15 PM
I find myself curious how, when it was posted on some other website, with some other screen name not the same as the one you have here, heck, not even the same location listed, we were supposed to know that that was you that posted it originally? :hmm

You weren't.

I just didn't expect to have something I wrote stolen (which I'm semi-okay with), credited to someone else (something I'm not cool with), then advised this "person" (e.g. me) didn't deserve her intellectual right because she's "no one who contributes here".

It was just silly.

I'm okay with being anonymous, and you not knowing who I am. I'm also okay with the sharing of my ideas (that's why they're posted), but I'm not okay with blatant disregard for others work.

No one had to put two and two together.... they just have to respect (whomever).

It's less about who, and more about what's right.



Edited by ascensions, Oct 27 2013, 04:59 PM.
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I always use RTV on something like that and never have an issue. I never put a normal gasket in without it.
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Oct 27 2013, 04:59 PM
Mythstae
Oct 27 2013, 04:15 PM
I find myself curious how, when it was posted on some other website, with some other screen name not the same as the one you have here, heck, not even the same location listed, we were supposed to know that that was you that posted it originally? :hmm

You weren't.

I just didn't expect to have something I wrote stolen (which I'm semi-okay with), credited to someone else (something I'm not cool with), then advised this "person" (e.g. me) didn't deserve her intellectual right because she's "no one who contributes here".

It was just silly.

I'm okay with being anonymous, and you not knowing who I am. I'm also okay with the sharing of my ideas (that's why they're posted), but I'm not okay with blatant disregard for others work.

No one had to put two and two together.... they just have to respect (whomever).

It's less about who, and more about what's right.
:hmm I can see your point. If it was me that had written it originally, I'd probably PM Bad Bent and ask him to credit me.
He's a pretty cool dude, in my experience, and I bet he'd edit the post. ^o)
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