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| Are1995 Geo parts compatible with 1999 Firefly?; Are1995 Geo parts compatible with 1999 Firefly? | |
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| Jenny | Dec 22 2013, 10:43 AM Post #1 |
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Hi there. I'm not sure if this is the right spot to post this, but seems to be the closest fit: I've got a 1995 Geo Metro 2 door hatchback. It was hit by a truck ![]() While I try to sort out things with insurance (and hope that they don't write off my car), I finally found a car I might be able to use and buy in the meantime. It's not anywhere near as nice as mine is, but if the parts are compatible, it might turn out well. Does anyone know if a 1995 Geo is compatible with a 1999 Firefly? Would the door, for example, of the 1999 Firefly be a perfect match for my 1995 Geo? Back panel? Could I also take the engine out of my 1995 Geo and put it into the 1999 Firefly? Or would this be too much work and not worth it?? And does anyone know if the 1999 is smaller inside? I had a 1994 Geo Metro I had to give up when I moved provinces, but thought the 1997 Firefly I had found was going to be the same. But the trunk area was much smaller, and I had less leg room in front. I couldn't put my seat as far back either. It was about an inch shorter, but I don't notice that with the 1995 (unless I've just gotten used to it - I just don't have both to compare anymore). I have yet to go see this 1999, but I'm worried that the leg room much be shorter than my 1995. Sorry for all the questions! Thanks for any info/help ![]() |
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| Old Man | Dec 22 2013, 11:21 AM Post #2 |
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So, I take it that you have given up on fixing your 1995. Sure would have been nice if you would take some pics and let the forum take a look at the damage. Lots of good knowledge, experience here. Might just have been able to salvage it------O' Well EDIT: just saw your other post with pics |
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| Jenny | Dec 22 2013, 12:01 PM Post #3 |
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Oh - no, not given up yet!! Not at all!!! Just preparing for possibilities. I've heard from a number of people where I live that it can take weeks to sort things out with insurance, especially if they give a lowball value for the car (which I've been told to expect and not to accept at all). In the meantime, insurance only gave me a rental until Monday. I'm a single parent with a child and need to get around. I don't want to be car-less over the Christmas holidays. I need to find something! And if this 1999 Firefly is something that I can interchange parts with the 1995 Geo, that it's that much more beneficial. Instead of paying for a rental, I can purchase the Firefly, and at least know I have something. If my battle with insurance doesn't go as hoped, I won't be stuck with nothing, and I fully intend to try to buy back my Geo and see if I can piece something together. Unless... if it is no longer structurally intact, then I'll have to look at other options. But there's no way I want to let my "Little Buddy" go without a fight!!! Oh - that's also why I asked if the door and back panel on the 1999 would fit my 1995 Geo. I would have parts I could use to fix it if needed. The 1999 isn't in the best of condition. I haven't seen it yet, but they did warn me that it does have oil leaking and it has very high kilometers, whereas my 1995 Geo has only 66,000. Also wanted to say that I wouldn't want to disassemble the 1999 Firefly either. I would first try to find parts. It might take a while to get it all fixed, and in the meantime I'll have a car to drive. And I could always try to sell the Firefly after. I figure it might be a win-win situation. Would be nice to have something good happen after all of this ![]() Edited by Jenny, Dec 22 2013, 12:08 PM.
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| Old Man | Dec 22 2013, 12:06 PM Post #4 |
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Good. Pics on your other thread are not real clear, but it sure seems to me that there is a possible 'fix' in its future. Dents don't seem too structural, but hard to tell with the pics. |
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| Jenny | Dec 22 2013, 12:11 PM Post #5 |
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Thanks "Old Man". Not sure if you read my reply. On Monday, I'm going to try to track down where they took my car and get new, better pictures. And hopefully find out what the insurance company's position is. |
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| Jenny | Dec 22 2013, 12:13 PM Post #6 |
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"Old Man", your info says "Tech Certified". Are you a mechanic or autobody specialist? I really love how there's so many knowledgeable people on this site. |
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| Old Man | Dec 22 2013, 01:02 PM Post #7 |
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I am neither. I think I earned the "Tech Certified" more for my general experience than anything else. Automotive mechanics has been my "hobby" for over 60 years.--I try to advise on the 'easy' stuff and leave the complicated to the experts on the site. And yes, there are a lot of experts here. And they run the course from simple automotive to complicated NASA stuff. |
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| Metromightymouse | Dec 22 2013, 05:58 PM Post #8 |
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The 99 Firefly and the 95 Metro are physically the same car, just differences in cosmetics and controls. Door and quarterpanel should be usable but a body shop should be consulted to determine if the side can be pulled out sufficiently to align the hatch and back seat (based on your description). The motor is the same but to install it in the firefly will require swapping some parts from the 99 for the crank sensor that is not on the 99. |
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| Mythstae | Dec 22 2013, 08:03 PM Post #9 |
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One thing we need to know is if your engine is a 3 cylinder or 4 cylinder. If it's a 3 cylinder, the engine will be the same, but the oil pump and oil pan will be different. (Between the Metro and the Firefly, I mean.) If it's a 4 cylinder, the engine will be similar but different. 95 is an 8 valve 4 cylinder engine; 99 is a 16 valve. Different head, different pistons, and again, difference in oil pump and pan. I think. There might be a difference because I'm talking from a U.S. Perspective, and you are in Canada. If I'm wrong, someone will be along shortly to correct me... ![]() Body wise, yes, everything from a hatchback of any year from 1995 to 2001 will swap. Doors, fenders, hoods, interior, doesn't matter, it will all bolt up. |
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| Metromightymouse | Dec 22 2013, 08:27 PM Post #10 |
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My bad, I was working on the assumption (not too much of a stretch) that it was a 3 cyl. Reviewed the original post and it did not say. Was the LSI sold without a tach? If it wasn't then it's a 3 cyl.
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| punkozuna | Dec 22 2013, 11:53 PM Post #11 |
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I looked at the Vancouver BC craigslist and saw several metro\swift\fireflies that looked promising. Some were pretty cheap. You anywhere near Vancouver? There was one 91 Firefly that looked pretty sweet - not the right year for you I know but it was a clean looking, silver 2 door hatch. The Firefly and Pontiac badging are pretty cool too. It's a little expensive though at $2500. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/4176097621.html There's a 96 for $650 that looks pretty straight. At least in the picture. You never know till you see it in person. It might be a good parts swap candidate. Not sure about as an interim driver. |
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| Jenny | Dec 23 2013, 02:51 AM Post #12 |
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Thanks everyone ![]() Yes it's a 3 cyl. hatch back. I think that makes it a 1.0L engine. Thanks for the link Punkozuna. I sent messages to both the 1991 and 1996 listers. The 1996 is listed as an automatic which (correct me if I'm wrong) isn't the best for a 3 cylinder when you live in the mountains. I don't live in Vancouver. I'm about a 6 hour drive east of there. But I can see what I can do. Maybe take a bus down and if the car is good, drive it back. If not... I'm out of luck and have had to endure a terribly long bus ride with crying children (at least that's how it was the last time I did that - swore to never do that again). I did look at the 1999 Firefly today. IT WAS AWFUL!!! She posted it being 200,000km, but it was over 310,000. The hatchback door won't close. Maybe about 20+ slams each time to try to get it to lock. It's obvious from the back, the lock, and bumper areas it had been in an accident and things were shifted. Get this - the driver's side mirror is being held on by a few strips of electric tape!!! It somewhat dangles. She insists that she drove it on the highway for a year like that and never had a problem. There is so much oil all over the engine. And there's a gelatin-like pile of it near one of the belts - looks like it's dripped and gooed there over a very long time. She says she hasn't driven it since May. I'm not that much of an expert on these cars, but I could tell the front end was hit before (although she denies any knowledge of accidents). Hole in the bumper among scratches kinda makes that stand out. And driver's door isn't aligned right. Have to push it up and in a bit. It's really sad to see any Geo like that. I felt so bad for it. But it's a real, real mess. I was hoping to find something to get me by temporarily while I try to sort things out with insurance (and possibly drive it longer if insurance doesn't work out).. but this one seems like it was driven right into the ground. Poor thing. You know what I don't get? I've gone and test driven some of the newer compact cars. I tried out the Spark. It's supposed to be very similar to the Geo in size. Yet it's so much smaller inside. Folding down the back seat is terrible!!! I don't know who designed that thing, but you'd think that over time, they would have perfected things, not made them worse. And it's so hard to see out of the back windows. The Geo had so much nice window space. Why couldn't they have taken the good and then just built on that? ![]() |
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Was the LSI sold without a tach? If it wasn't then it's a 3 cyl.

2:27 PM Jul 11