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Clutch gone bad or something else
Topic Started: Dec 30 2013, 08:57 PM (1,274 Views)
billpinsc
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Today as I was on the way home I was cruising along and as I attempted to shift into 5th. I noticed the clutch felt really tight all of a sudden and it would not go into gear. As I began to slow down to prepare to pull off the road I got it into 4th so I proceeded to try and make it home. As I slowed down as I got into town I was able to get it into 2nd.I was able to take a back street and roll though 2 stop signs and timed one stop light just right and finally I made it home.

I don't know much about clutches but I'm guessing it went out. While I was home when I would crank it up in gear with the clutch in it would try to take off. Is this classic clutch gone bad or maybe something else. I did check the cable and it looked tight and the adjustment screw did not look like it had moved. Thanks
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Old Man


sounds like the classic "spring in the clutch pressure plate" came loose.
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Freeman
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Old Man
Dec 30 2013, 09:03 PM
sounds like the classic "spring in the clutch pressure plate" came loose.
I'm not sure what this exactly means. But I had a clutch spring come completely out of a clutch before. It felt like pressing on a box of screws with the clutch pedal. It was hard and felt like I was crushing something.

But, before you replace the clutch. Unhook the clutch cable and press on the pedal. It should move freely. If not, it's probably clutch related.

Note: I know nothing about Geos. I just hope this advice carries over from other makes and models.
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TurboEF
Dec 30 2013, 09:29 PM
Old Man
Dec 30 2013, 09:03 PM
sounds like the classic "spring in the clutch pressure plate" came loose.
I'm not sure what this exactly means. But I had a clutch spring come completely out of a clutch before. It felt like pressing on a box of screws with the clutch pedal. It was hard and felt like I was crushing something.

But, before you replace the clutch. Unhook the clutch cable and press on the pedal. It should move freely. If not, it's probably clutch related.

Note: I know nothing about Geos. I just hope this advice carries over from other makes and models.
It only got hard about 1/2 the way down, but it did not feel like I was crushing anything.
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I called around last night most clutch set are $117.00 -$123.00 locally :deal . I see some online for around $75.00-$85.00 with free shipping. :shake I wonder how good these online ones are. :hmm
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Sounds like the clutch lost a spring to me also...the clutch disc has four tension springs in it, and after a long while they wear themselves loose, usually right before the clutch disc rivets eat metal...
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geogonfa
Dec 31 2013, 09:59 AM
Sounds like the clutch lost a spring to me also...the clutch disc has four tension springs in it, and after a long while they wear themselves loose, usually right before the clutch disc rivets eat metal...
Yup! Probably lost a spring.

It will continue to work for awhile, but it will get worse with time.

I would order one online. OEM spec. I get mine from JCwhitney, or at least I have for a couple of cars in the past. $75 sounds about right to me. When you drop the trans there will probably be a ton of dust from the clutch pad wearing so fast since there is a spring jumbling around in there. I'll dig up some photos of my bug when I replaced a very worn clutch.
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TurboEF
Dec 31 2013, 12:42 PM


It will continue to work for awhile, but it will get worse with time.
No it will not work at all. The clutch will not engage at all after this happened.
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I had been hearing some very slight rattling sometimes. Maybe it was a spring in there rattling around.
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billpinsc
Dec 31 2013, 12:44 PM
TurboEF
Dec 31 2013, 12:42 PM


It will continue to work for awhile, but it will get worse with time.
No it will not work at all. The clutch will not engage at all after this happened.
:hmm Mine definitely engaged...

Clutch was GONE, springs had fallen off and were scraping

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Dust that came out

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It seems to be a common weak part in the Metros. The slight rattling was your warning something is about to happen. Its a pretty easy fix. I run good clutches in my cars. Make sure it comes with a pilot bearing.
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Mr Murf 59
Dec 31 2013, 01:59 PM
It seems to be a common weak part in the Metros. The slight rattling was your warning something is about to happen. Its a pretty easy fix. I run good clutches in my cars. Make sure it comes with a pilot bearing.
:gp :+1

Definitely. It's a piece that will wear out as time goes on. Definitely worth replacing while you are in there. I usually replace the pilot bearing, clutch disc and pressure plate at the same time. Most kits will come with all 3 pieces.
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Now I fell better. I was afraid the rattle might have been in the engine. I though I would drive it until something broke. Well here we are now. I'm glad it was only a clutch.
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A good clutch kit includes the pressure plate, clutch disc, pilot bearing AND the throw out bearing.
Kit should be around $80
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When the trans is out, change the fluid in it, and install a new set of axle seals in the trans. If you can.
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