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Replacement Seat Belt
Topic Started: Jan 23 2014, 11:50 AM (1,733 Views)
Reista
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Clutzy Shadetree

What do you guys think of these?

(Cheap-expensive)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Black-3-Point-Retractable-Car-Seat-Belt-Universal-/221039320884?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3376f85f34&vxp=mtr
http://www.amazon.com/Allstar-Performance-ALL98115-Three-Point-Retractable/dp/B003BZZCEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390495613&sr=8-1&keywords=three+point+seat+belt
http://www.amazon.com/Corbeau-3-Point-Retractable-Seat-Belt/dp/B007TYCXCI/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1390495613&sr=8-11&keywords=three+point+seat+belt

I have the nasty electric locking seatbelt deal in my door and I'm iffy as to whether it will even work. I would much prefer an inertial lock or manual locking seatbelt.
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I would definitely try and do some research on the legality/safety side of these. The last one, C-however you spell it, is a brand I am at least familiar with. Is retrofitting factory seat belts from a different car not an option? You could pick some up at the junkyard much cheaper.

I have no experience with these specific belts, so I will just say what I know to be true. Don't cheap out on anything designed to save your life.
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TurboEF
Jan 23 2014, 12:10 PM
I would definitely try and do some research on the legality/safety side of these. The last one, C-however you spell it, is a brand I am at least familiar with. Is retrofitting factory seat belts from a different car not an option? You could pick some up at the junkyard much cheaper.

I have no experience with these specific belts, so I will just say what I know to be true. Don't cheap out on anything designed to save your life.
yeah the Corbeau would be the best option as far as I see it.

However ANYTHING would be an improvement pretty much lol the belt i have right now does not lock up- thus my face would be meeting the dash which I won't much want XD

Might go with these non-retractables. They meed Fed regulations and are made in the US

http://www.jbugs.com/product/CH300.html?Category_Code=UniBelts3
Edited by Reista, Jan 23 2014, 12:56 PM.
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Instead of that, This http://geometroforum.com/topic/3932276/1/

Read past the mod, the little washer is not the way to do it. You need a bigger steel plate.
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Non-retractables are fine in my opinion. It does remind me of a harnesses though. They are kind of annoying if you are the passenger. It's just a little bit easier to have the auto retracting ones. Still, I'd stick with something proven/known either way. You are obviously looking for something low budget. Just be safe about it. That write up made sense when I read it, so I assume it would be good reference for replacing the belt.
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Jan 23 2014, 02:39 PM
Non-retractables are fine in my opinion. It does remind me of a harnesses though. They are kind of annoying if you are the passenger. It's just a little bit easier to have the auto retracting ones. Still, I'd stick with something proven/known either way. You are obviously looking for something low budget. Just be safe about it. That write up made sense when I read it, so I assume it would be good reference for replacing the belt.
I'm not terribly budget minded for this XD I just don't want a hardness and all that jazz. If i needed one it would be the 4 point DOT harness. I DO want something that will lock me in and keep my back to the seat in the event of a crash. The non-retracting are a sure fit, the retracting have a manual lock to pull the belt out all the weay and ratchet, and have an intertial lock when not manually set. I DONT want my current system that doesn't lock at all =p all it would do in the even of a crash is keep me in the car, but it would be fine with dash-stomping my face though the steering wheel =p not too good IMO

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/wescoperformance/3-point-retractable-seat-belt-bucket-seat-for-standard-roof-auto-3.jpg seems to be a good choice for retractable.
Edited by Reista, Jan 23 2014, 03:42 PM.
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Reista
Jan 23 2014, 03:39 PM
TurboEF
Jan 23 2014, 02:39 PM
Non-retractables are fine in my opinion. It does remind me of a harnesses though. They are kind of annoying if you are the passenger. It's just a little bit easier to have the auto retracting ones. Still, I'd stick with something proven/known either way. You are obviously looking for something low budget. Just be safe about it. That write up made sense when I read it, so I assume it would be good reference for replacing the belt.
I'm not terribly budget minded for this XD I just don't want a hardness and all that jazz. If i needed one it would be the 4 point DOT harness. I DO want something that will lock me in and keep my back to the seat in the event of a crash. The non-retracting are a sure fit, the retracting have a manual lock to pull the belt out all the weay and ratchet, and have an intertial lock when not manually set. I DONT want my current system that doesn't lock at all =p all it would do in the even of a crash is keep me in the car, but it would be fine with dash-stomping my face though the steering wheel =p not too good IMO

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/wescoperformance/3-point-retractable-seat-belt-bucket-seat-for-standard-roof-auto-3.jpg seems to be a good choice for retractable.
There are places to economize, and there are places to spend at least enough. Seat belts are a place to spend enough!! There's no time for retakes in an accident, and complaining to JC Whitney about warranty coverage after the fact doesn't fix the damage!

When I got my '63 VW Beetle, I installed lap straps in it. Shoulder harnesses weren't big back then (neither were retractables), and there was no place to hook them anyway in that little tin can. But I bought a set of new aviation style belts and I wore them every time I got in it. The morning that '77 Buick turned left in front of me as I entered the intersection, those belts paid for themselves. We hit right headlight to right headlight. I was doing 25-30 mph and he was doing about 20. I aimed for the brakes, but my leg never got there. I broke the ignition key off with my knee instead. Minor injury. My reaction time was enough to rotate the steering wheel 90 degrees, so as I went forward (pivoting at the waist) I broke the rim of the wheel off with my hands and wrapped it around the steering column. Then I broke the steering wheel spoke off with my nose.

If I had not installed those belts, I would have had my head through the windshield and the steering column through my chest. The cops told me that it should not have been survivable. They saw the car and me slumped unconscious in it and assumed the worst, except I had put those belts in and saved my life. Sure, the traumatic brain injury knocked me out of school for a year, but dying would have put me out for a lot longer. I had a photographic memory prior to impact. The accident wiped it clean, and I actually had to learn to study for the first time in my life, which turned out to be a good thing.

Seat belts save lives!! There's no time to put them on when you need them. Pay the price to get a good one, and then use it.

I want to replace the belts in my doors too. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Edited by perfesser, Jan 23 2014, 06:48 PM.
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perfesser
Jan 23 2014, 06:45 PM
Reista
Jan 23 2014, 03:39 PM
TurboEF
Jan 23 2014, 02:39 PM
Non-retractables are fine in my opinion. It does remind me of a harnesses though. They are kind of annoying if you are the passenger. It's just a little bit easier to have the auto retracting ones. Still, I'd stick with something proven/known either way. You are obviously looking for something low budget. Just be safe about it. That write up made sense when I read it, so I assume it would be good reference for replacing the belt.
I'm not terribly budget minded for this XD I just don't want a hardness and all that jazz. If i needed one it would be the 4 point DOT harness. I DO want something that will lock me in and keep my back to the seat in the event of a crash. The non-retracting are a sure fit, the retracting have a manual lock to pull the belt out all the weay and ratchet, and have an intertial lock when not manually set. I DONT want my current system that doesn't lock at all =p all it would do in the even of a crash is keep me in the car, but it would be fine with dash-stomping my face though the steering wheel =p not too good IMO

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/wescoperformance/3-point-retractable-seat-belt-bucket-seat-for-standard-roof-auto-3.jpg seems to be a good choice for retractable.
There are places to economize, and there are places to spend at least enough. Seat belts are a place to spend enough!! There's no time for retakes in an accident, and complaining to JC Whitney about warranty coverage after the fact doesn't fix the damage!

When I got my '63 VW Beetle, I installed lap straps in it. Shoulder harnesses weren't big back then (neither were retractables), and there was no place to hook them anyway in that little tin can. But I bought a set of new aviation style belts and I wore them every time I got in it. The morning that '77 Buick turned left in front of me as I entered the intersection, those belts paid for themselves. We hit right headlight to right headlight. I was doing 25-30 mph and he was doing about 20. I aimed for the brakes, but my leg never got there. I broke the ignition key off with my knee instead. Minor injury. My reaction time was enough to rotate the steering wheel 90 degrees, so as I went forward (pivoting at the waist) I broke the rim of the wheel off with my hands and wrapped it around the steering column. Then I broke the steering wheel spoke off with my nose.

If I had not installed those belts, I would have had my head through the windshield and the steering column through my chest. The cops told me that it should not have been survivable. They saw the car and me slumped unconscious in it and assumed the worst, except I had put those belts in and saved my life. Sure, the traumatic brain injury knocked me out of school for a year, but dying would have put me out for a lot longer. I had a photographic memory prior to impact. The accident wiped it clean, and I actually had to learn to study for the first time in my life, which turned out to be a good thing.

Seat belts save lives!! There's no time to put them on when you need them. Pay the price to get a good one, and then use it.

I want to replace the belts in my doors too. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I agree that the belt shouyld be 100% good to save my ass. that's why i'm aiming for ones that meet US federal regulations. The belt i have now won't do crap =p

On a side note, Glad you're still alive!
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So am I, brother, so am I!! :D :D :D
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You want belts from a GEN3 Metro/Swift. They bolt right in.


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Woodie
Jan 24 2014, 05:24 AM
You want belts from a GEN3 Metro/Swift. They bolt right in.


This is my best suggestion also. OEM equipment is very good.

Also, I never said to cheap out on the belts. I was just noting that the non-retractables can be more budget friendly. But we all know that.

OP, you don't 'really' have a budget for this. Which is fine, just find what you like. I think the 3 point harness (stock configuration) is the best since it is a proven design. They let your body roll to the side in the event of a roll and stop the roof from breaking your neck. That's something a 4 point harness (racing style) won't do. Also, I think the 3 point is safer than the lap belt (2 point?) based on the addition of shoulder support.
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Just an update, I just ordered two of these: http://www.jbugs.com/product/CH201P.html?Category_Code=UniBelts3

I like feeling attached to my seat at all times, especially the way I corner XD and this way i won't have to worry about any crappy inertial locks or bad hardware. KISS right? Could have gone with GEN3, but i would still have the loose feeling until I locked it up

100% made in the US, removable sleeve if i want a soft belt, and it's a 94" belt so it can fit even my fat ass
Edited by Reista, May 6 2014, 03:10 AM.
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