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| Justice for Josh; Please sign petition to reduce/drop charges for Josh | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 7 2014, 11:10 PM (1,178 Views) | |
| tribrid | Mar 7 2014, 11:10 PM Post #1 |
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Fellow members I want to share a story with you that I would like your support if you feel inclined to share. My son has been in jail for over a year awaiting trial for attempted murder/ serious bodily injury. He and his wife had been drinking at a party and when they got home his wife started going off on him and he wanted to leave but she wouldn't let him. Please read the story by going to the link provided. If you feel that Josh has been charged wrongly then please sign the petition. Thanks for your consideration. http://www.change.org/petitions/el-paso-county-4th-judicial-assistant-attorney-jeffrey-pearson-district-attorney-dan-may-drop-attempted-murder-serious-bodily-injury-charges-against-joshua-swarts?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_facebook_mobile&recruiter=84734923 |
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| Stubby | Mar 8 2014, 12:58 AM Post #2 |
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I read the story, and signed. Here's why... I've been in countless of these situations as a third party EMT, and it's distressing how often you see the same scenario. On average once every few weeks. I do believe he was wrong to use force to stop force because there was no life in danger. With my experience, I know off hand a bazillion things he should have done differently; taking the kids and leaving immediately, getting a witness, getting another party to take the kids, taking video, and you NEVER leave the scene without believing your life is in danger. Unfortunately most people aren't used to these situations, and don't know what to do. He handled the situation improperly, and without thinking. His actions were inexcusable, and that's having only heard the biased version leaning his way. That being said, he needs an education on handling domestic violence, but I don't believe he needs to be in jail. Jail will benefit him, his family, and his ex nothing of value. Good luck to you both, and I wish you well.
Edited by Stubby, Mar 8 2014, 01:00 AM.
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| exo | May 17 2014, 02:32 AM Post #3 |
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I'm not saying your son is evil or anything, but I'm hoping his little trip to jail grew him up a little. This is some seriously silly redneck whitetrash shit. They have kids, yet they are partying til 2 AM, the wife is driving cuz they are both wasted, and then they get home and have a fistfight, and it's not the first time. All parties here need to grow the fuck up and think about the children. I don't believe for a second the link you posted is anywhere close to what really happened as it is obviously slanted in the defendant's favor, hell, it is his attorney's words. The only way a woman gets bruising behind both her ears is becuz she covered her face when some drunken neandertahl was pummeling her with his fists from above or she was laying face down when she got the beating, niether situations paint your boy in a good light huh. . Think about that statement for a few moments. Regardless of the other factors involved here, your son is a woman beater and that makes him a sorry POS. Get your grandkids into a safe environment until their parents grow the fuck up, they don't need to see that shit. . A full grown man that can't walk away from a small woman without knocking her to the ground? I think you may have some delusions as regards your son. |
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| aaronvincent | May 17 2014, 03:00 AM Post #4 |
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| MR Bill | May 17 2014, 08:23 AM Post #5 |
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What happen to quick and speedy trial? Ask for dismissal due to untimely trial date, they are hope he will holler I am guilty, lets get over with. |
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| GeoStalker | May 17 2014, 08:36 AM Post #6 |
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"Chicks dig me and guys think I'm cool."
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| Cyborg | May 17 2014, 08:38 AM Post #7 |
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Signed. Good luck, I prob would have done the same thing and had this happened to me I hope people would do the same for me. |
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| Justahoby | Sep 3 2014, 07:15 PM Post #8 |
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I can't say for all the issues, but the man always is stereotyped as evil in these situations. As for my first marriage, I was needled and provoked, even when I walked away.. Thank God I was able to.... Because our system has made the man evil . One time a 5ft nothing 160 lb man came home and his 300 lb wife hit him in his front yard sat on him and hit him repeatedly. People in the neighborhood called the cops, and because there was a domestic call they " Had to arrest someone". You guessed it , the little army man got arrested, and the city/ police department got sued over the but that arrest without a conviction is what pops up whenever he gets pulled over, and bubba with a badge may not care, because that computer tells an illusion of "know it all" . Another 120 lbs man from Mexico who was working , picking oranges in Florida was arrested for domestic violence, because his wife claimed he picked her up above his head and slammed her through a kitchen table. My friend went on the Jury, and even though he wasn't supposed to say, well he did because it was too funny. She was 6 ft tall colored American and weighed 375 lbs. According to the law of common sense, it was thrown out. But that mans mark from his sweetheart may prevent him from becoming a citizen, because arrests without conviction have been allowed to become a mark on people. Men are made to look like crap, and I can say I have seen it over and over in the Army, not all women, but quite a few would drain there husband bank account, while he is in combat, developing PTSD , because she is busy jumping back to the drugs she played with in her teen years, but now at an extreme.. When he cuts how much she gets, he learns some other Mr. Is giving her a good time. He comes back home, can't find her to serve her papers, and she calls their commander and says He is not giving her percentage of housing allowance(BAH) .. She won't sign the papers , now that she gets her 700 /month or whatever.. I have seen it.. Then they get back together , she does something just as crappy( cheats after they get back together) he hits her as money goes again out of the account, and his commander is getting calls of unpaid bills.. Ect ect ect. The only thing they can hope for is they get get caught with the drugs they played with. I knew one guy who came home from Iraq, that tour I stayed in the rear at home. They let him home on R/R to see his baby born. By some freak chance he was obviously impossibly his baby. They argued couple days later, she calls the cops, he shot himself. Don't get me wrong, there are shitheads who do not hit, but just wail their fists away at their wife, not just anger, but think that ownership of women are theirs and ruler ship of narcissistic ideals to put them into hospital.This is not 70-80% of the issues, where the man just needs to walk away and develop self control. ( they should never lift a hand to a woman, but many good man have found them selves in complicated) But the law gets enforced beyond common sense often. That's the work we live in |
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| tribrid | Sep 3 2014, 11:17 PM Post #9 |
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I haven't read the forms for awhile as I have been busy. In response to exo; I'm sure my Son's two years spent incarcerated have opened his eyes to how his actions changed the course of his life permanately. I agree that they shouldn't have been out partying until 2am. I agree that they need to grow up and put the childern first. Where I disagree is the petition was not obviously slanted as the points made were taken from investigators, police and medical personel reports produced for the case during discovery. The exwife had been arrested for batery against my son previously in almost exactly the same way and my son did the right thing and called police who listened to both their stories and arrested and jailed the exwife. My son of course posted bail and they went on with their life. When my son was arrested the second time after a neighbor heard the arguing and called police, there were no marks on her face or body as evidenced by police and hospital photos, only bruising behind her ears where my son had put her in a headlock to keep her from assaulting him because she thought he was flirting with a girl from the party they had been to earlier. She screamed that my son had tried to murder her and had beaten her and dragged her around by her hair. All evidence pointed otherwise and she called the detective the next day and recanted her story. From there my son was guilty until proven innocent. Long story short; I hired an impartial expert medical witness who was prepared to testify on my son's behalf, got rid of the public defender and hired a private attorney that was prepared to go to trial. On the Friday, two days before the trial was scheduled to begin, the DA called and offered to drop all charges (10 total) in exchange for a guilty plea of felony menacing ( using his arm to scare her) which is a 54 month sentence. He will have done two years and is now in a minimum facility in Colorado looking at possible parole in a couple of months. My son is not a woman beater or a piece of shit as you say. He has been to Iraq twice and sacrificed his life to provide for his family and country. In reports to detectives his ex stated that he was a good husband and father when they weren't drinking. You should look at your own life before you are so quick to judge others. I am not condoning arguing with your wife and certainly not using physical contact unless absolutely necesssary, which in this case could and should have been avoided. I thank those of you that showed support for him and my family through all this. |
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| tribrid | Sep 3 2014, 11:28 PM Post #10 |
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My son waived his right to a speedy trial so we could hire an expert medical witness to challenge the ER Dr. who filled out a form stating my son had used deadly force on his ex wife by using only her testimony not physical evidence. His claim doesn't make sense because his ex stated more than once that she never lost conscience and even faked passing out. Meanwhile when I talked to the public defender and asked him about how he would cross examine the ER Dr., he stated he would not try to disprove the Dr.s claim even though there were no marks on her neck or face. |
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| tribrid | Sep 3 2014, 11:29 PM Post #11 |
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Thank You and I hope you never have to find out. |
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| t3ragtop | Sep 4 2014, 06:49 PM Post #12 |
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here in ohio, a conviction of domestic violence causes a person to lose their right to own or possess a firearm. you have no other option but to fight against a conviction. if you are acquitted you can have everything expunged except the police booking (which they refuse to give up under the pretense that the records are classified as "working files.) good luck. |
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| TimmyD | Sep 4 2014, 08:41 PM Post #13 |
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...those years fighting in Iraq probably scarred him more then anyone thinks. I will also dare say it being a contributing factor in his drinking problem (I won't say what I think of his ex). I don't know if The Wounded Warrior Project has a prison outreach, but I do know there are many vets doing time in prison. Before he gets released, he will need a support system already established which will help him get on the right track & not repeat his past mistakes. Whether he remains living in Colorado or back with you in Kansas, it is vital for him to know he is not alone. Semper Fi spouse & USAF Vet Edited by TimmyD, Sep 4 2014, 08:42 PM.
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| Justahoby | Sep 5 2014, 08:46 PM Post #14 |
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General military environment can go sour for an individual , as nothing is perfect. When I was in, people were more about themselves , and stresses followed you home. It takes a woman that's been through it herself to understand. I deployed/ divorced, she got a girlfriend.. Dumped me, because " I was too busy for her" while days I was on mission lost a friend ect. It's a good thing when I walked from that. It was better for her to say I said shit on the phone from 7 states away when I got back. People that never been through it don't know. Many veterans got out not to deal with the red tape bulshit. Some developed PTSD , I never had it officially , thank god, but storm sirens and fire trucks mildly alert me as if the FOB was getting mortared all over again.. Took a good year to be less jumpy. I developed sleep apnea as disturbed REM sleep became a lifestyle. I use a cpap, when I can sleep, waking up gasping for air is very freaky. Some people seem fine, but the stressors are there whether they accept them or not. Many got kicked out turning to drugs to make them feel better, and I have seen this happen to decent NCOs . |
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General military environment can go sour for an individual , as nothing is perfect. When I was in, people were more about themselves , and stresses followed you home. It takes a woman that's been through it herself to understand. I deployed/ divorced, she got a girlfriend.. Dumped me, because " I was too busy for her" while days I was on mission lost a friend ect. It's a good thing when I walked from that. It was better for her to say I said shit on the phone from 7 states away when I got back. 
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