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James's Green Geo Metro; It's ... Alive!!!
Topic Started: Jun 29 2014, 05:03 PM (5,796 Views)
Fast_89_Metro
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Oh wow I remember seeing this car on youtube from that previous owner trying to sell it. Glad to know he not good at his job so I don't recomend him to anyone who is looking to buy one!!!



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Dec 10 2014, 05:15 PM
Cool, thanks. I've been wondering about lighter flywheels. Some guys even go aluminum.
Light fly wheels rock, the green beast needs one :rocker
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Fast_89_Metro
Dec 10 2014, 11:33 PM
Oh wow I remember seeing this car on youtube from that previous owner trying to sell it. Glad to know he not good at his job so I don't recomend him to anyone who is looking to buy one!!!



Well, No, I wouldn't recommend that anyone would do business with Geo Jeff. My personal experience so far with his work was that it seems as if he took a lot of short cuts and just did strange things to the car, such as the thermostatically controlled HVAC system that didn't hardly work at all. I made the mistake of being taken for a lot of high in the sky type of talk about a refurbished Geo, without checking further into Jeff's reputation. As for the man himself, maybe he will learn his lesson someday and stop doing shoddy work. The good thing is that the car runs and hasn't had any really serious malfunctions yet, and it has very little rust on the frame. So the car is still valuable to me as a project.
Regarding aluminum flywheels, has anyone had problems with harmonics issues with them and vibrations? :dunno Would a lighter flywheel mean less absorption of vibration and less rigidity? :hmm
Also thanks everyone for helping me out when I've asked for your help. I appreciate all of the feedback. :popcorn

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Photo I took awhile ago. I drove it around in a parking lot rally style a little when it snowed and was pleasantly surprised by how these little cars do in the snow!
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I have just gotten back from Albuquerque this week. I had to take my Jeep Cherokee there because of some issues with the Geo. My first issue was that the starter had fallen out due to only being secured by one bolt. The second issue is that somehow there is some moisture getting into the oil.

I think that this may be happening because of a modification that the previous owner had done to the PCV system. I will post a photo. Basically there's a cylinder that's attached to the PCV hoses and then there's another hose from the cylinder that is connected to the bottom of the oil pan. I think that the idea was to allow excess oil to drip back down into the oil pan. Apparently this was to help deal with the "Geo Farts." I think perhaps that this is allowing extra moisture from the air to be introduced into the oil.

Some good news is that I had the opportunity to go to a great salvage yard in Albuquerque where I picked up an extra set of timing pulleys and the timing belt cover. I also got another air filter box, as mine has some extra holes that were drilled in it. I picked up a original PCV hose while I was there too.

My previous owner said that the timing gear pulleys that are currently on the car were from the 4 cylinder engine and are better because they're wider. My thoughts are to just go with what the engineers determined was the right pulley/belt setup for the car. I also picked up a compression tester and plan on doing a compression test on the engine.

So here's a picture at my engine compartment as it is now. I know, I know, it's needing some work. If anyone has any suggestions or comments, please feel free to share them with me. I always appreciate the feedback.

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The "previous owner" of your car shouldn't be allowed around cars period. We all know of him and I speak for a good majority of the forum when I say inspect your car carefully top to bottom, trust me. I can't believe he only had one bolt holding in the starter :shake Just like the nearly fatal mistake he made with the lugnuts of a fellow members metro a few months ago...atrocious
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I'd leave the wider 4 rib timing gear on it.
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So here's the latest news on my Geo. I know that it's been a really long time....
Later this winter the car started making knocking sounds. I decided right then that it definitely wasn't driveable. I've had a lot of other things going on so the car has been sitting for about 6 or 7 months now. Finally I got the garage cleaned out and the car in. Today I pulled out the engine and started having a look.

I haven't done much yet, just pulled the oil pan out, and found a lot of sludge in there. There was also some "interesting" things that I've found too (more to come later). I think that I'll start a new thread for the build/ tear down. The description "it's .... alive" isn't valid now. It's dead.
If any one is interested in following then let me know. I'm sure it's been done a thousand times here before, but I think it would be fun, and would like to hear some feedback too.

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Knowing the origin of your motor, I'm sure many of us are curious what goes into one of his high dollar rebuilds and what extra care he takes on his own cars. Your project thread is a perfectly appropriate place to document it as well. Be sure to take plenty of pictures.
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Absolutely James, many of us will be interested in following your progress... :thumb And sorry to hear about about the status of your engine.

The good news is if you rebuild it (or have it rebuilt) properly you can also take the opportunity to get rid of those ummm, "hackifications" like the Creamy Jiffy oil phart jar and.... what the heck was that metal container over the exhaust manifold?? Some type of heated oil recirculation system? :hmm
Metromightymouse
Sep 27 2015, 03:12 AM
I'm sure many of us are curious what goes into one of his high dollar rebuilds
Sludge and metal shavings? :hmm

Kind of like a can of cheap miracle engine cure snake oil in a can, but no doubt better formulated and highly tested for maximum mpg.
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myredvert
Sep 27 2015, 09:47 AM
Metromightymouse
Sep 27 2015, 03:12 AM
I'm sure many of us are curious what goes into one of his high dollar rebuilds
Sludge and metal shavings? :hmm
Uhh, yeah, that's the joke! :lol

I've seen what happens on the inside of one of those "rebuilds". It's not pretty. :scared
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I second that being a really nice color. You didn't have to pull the engine out to do the work on it. You could replace the crank bearings and the rings with it still in the car. You can do the cam bearings as well. I love how easy these are to work on.
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Awesome-X
Sep 27 2015, 10:12 PM
I second that being a really nice color. You didn't have to pull the engine out to do the work on it. You could replace the crank bearings and the rings with it still in the car. You can do the cam bearings as well. I love how easy these are to work on.
I was aware of this. However, knowing the history of this car, I was seriously doubting that I even wanted to reuse ANY of the engine components at all. I really just took the engine out to get a better view of things, and document what poor quality workmanship my previous owner (who is very well known) does. Thank you for your input.
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