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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 4 2014, 03:06 AM (1,163 Views) | |
| ptcapboy | Jul 4 2014, 03:06 AM Post #1 |
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yesterday my crankshaft pulley broke off in traffic, turning on my battery light and running up my temperature gauge-all traces of the 5 hardware store bolts I put on a couple years ago were gone-3 of the 5 holes have too much debris from the old bolts to put in new bolts-I tried to put on a breaker bar to remove the pulley but there isn't much room-could I get away with just 2 bolts on the pulley if I locktited them? Or would I sheer the bolts off due to excessive stress-I also have A/C-I heard about lowering the engine by removing a mount but that sounds like a PITA-maybe I can clean out the bad holes somehow... |
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| Metromightymouse | Jul 4 2014, 05:52 AM Post #2 |
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Please don't..... If 5 bolts of the wrong strength (assuming) didn't hold it and it's designed for 5 bolts of the correct strength around the perimeter, what is the likelihood of 2 bolts of any strength holding it? Also, what happened with your woodruff key, is it destroyed as well? Crankshaft nose? |
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| lnardozi | Jul 4 2014, 11:12 AM Post #3 |
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Find a pick-a-part near you, you'll get the harmonic balancer much cheaper and you'll get all 5 of the bolts that held them on. It is 9 billion times easier to drop the motor mount than to try to get it out without dropping it. You'll also need to buy a tiny drill bit (3 of them, this is going to be 1 tough drilling) from Harbor Freight (everything's on sale today), some oil to lube the bits and an easy out (tiny one that will fit inside those small bolts). If they don't sell an easy out that small, get the smallest hardened bolt you can buy and stick it into the hole you drilled in the bolt, coated in red (the strongest) loctite. You will then be able to unscrew the broken off bolts. YAY! Happy 4th of July! P.S. I just did this Wednesday. |
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| lnardozi | Jul 4 2014, 11:13 AM Post #4 |
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I don't know why I feel compelled to add this but you will of course have to wait for the loctite to dry fully. |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 4 2014, 02:50 PM Post #5 |
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thanks for the responses-not sure about the woodruff key, don't recall any noises at the crankshaft but on the other hand I don't remember the pully going on any one way-you can turn it to match any hole I believe-Inardozi when you say harmonic balancer you talking about the sprocket itself? I better review my manuals to increase my knowledge of this area-at least this is my second car so I can take my time-and thanks for the drilling tips! |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 4 2014, 04:23 PM Post #6 |
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looking at it again I don't see a woodruff key (it's a 96 1.3) but I remember it had a small nipple on the sprocket which went in a small hole on my pully-the nipple is gone but you can see where it was so I can match that with the hole |
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| Metromightymouse | Jul 5 2014, 03:21 AM Post #7 |
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The key is under the timing sprocket, just another thing to check and make sure it didn't contribute to the issue. If the timing sprocket isn't loose then it's likely ok. |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 6 2014, 10:15 PM Post #8 |
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well today I got the bolt off by using the bump the starter trick, but now the pulley doesn't want to come off-didn't have time to try much though-any tips to getting it off? I have a new one coming from Suzuki but maybe the boys in the engine room of the boat I work on can fix my old one-also any ideas where to get the proper bolts with the little 8mm head? |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 7 2014, 06:13 PM Post #9 |
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do the teeth on the back of sprocket (not the timing belt teeth) engage the crankshaft position sensor? part of them broke off when I was taking the sprocket off-(what a PITA that was) if so then my old sprocket is useless but I have a new one coming-also the area on the oil pump where the seal is is a little mangled-hopefully my new seal won't leak- |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 14 2014, 10:10 PM Post #10 |
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I may learn about this damn sprocket the hard way-on my 95 3 cylinder it comes right off-after reefing and reefing with a tire iron I finally got the old one off-the new one wouldn't go on very well so I had to start over and broke part of the crankshaft position sensor tabs in the process-after taking it off a third time some pieces that fit in the slot on the crankshaft feel on the driveway-how does this thing fit on a 1.3? does it have a woodruff key? Did I F it up? |
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| don_dowdy | Jul 15 2014, 12:37 AM Post #11 |
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Well, as you probably know by now, you need to remove the crankshaft position sensor before you try to take off or reinstall the timing sprocket. You may have killed it. You'll know it's dead if you get it all put back together and the spark plugs don't fire. What fell in the driveway is probably the woodruff key, it goes in the slot on the crankshaft and in the slot on the timing gear to keep them lined up. The end of it goes out into that notch in the crankshaft pulley. It should be A piece, not SOME pieces. You may have sheared it. |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 15 2014, 03:44 PM Post #12 |
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Thanks-I'm slowly gaining a knowledge of the area though I had no idea the crank sensor had to come out-now that I know what a woodruff key looks like that's indeed what came out I believe in 2 pieces-I found one on ebay for 9.95-any ideas of any other places to look? and when I put the new one in does the curved part go down towards the crank or up towards the pulley? I believe my old one had the curved side towards the crank-also if I want the crank sensor to work I'll need to buy another pulley as I broke the outer ring with the sensor teeth-and I was under the impression that my crank sensor was only for the CEL misfire code not for spark control-thanks again |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 30 2014, 12:33 AM Post #13 |
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well I had to buy a new oil pump because my old one was too dinged up in the crankshaft seal area due to trying to get the pulley off-I also had to buy another crankshaft sprocket because the sensor ring breaks too easy-MY QUESTION-why does the pick-up pipe /strainer inside the oil pan need a seal? I couldn't see one on there-is it an o ring? I would think everything is contained inside the oil pan-is it so the oil makes it into the engine? |
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| don_dowdy | Jul 30 2014, 12:40 AM Post #14 |
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It's an O-ring. if you leave out the O-ring it will pull air around the pipe instead of oil up the pipe. Not good. |
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| ptcapboy | Jul 30 2014, 12:49 AM Post #15 |
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Thanks Don-Dowdy! |
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