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Why having too much money can sometimes be a bad thing...; Bad driving with some very expensive cars
Topic Started: Aug 3 2014, 12:36 PM (1,523 Views)
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Cobrajet25
Aug 4 2014, 01:27 AM
I'd love to see the crowd here keep a car with 750 horsepower on tap under control...after being used to a car with only 55. :lol
That would involve me making sure it had the stickiest tires on it I can find, and only being driven when the roads were clear and dry, preferably pretty warm too.

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I'd love to see the crowd here keep a car with 750 horsepower on tap under control...after being used to a car with only 55. :lol
Sadist. :O

Having first hand experience with numerous of examples of people with too much money upgrading from a "normal" high performance small aircraft with say 300 hp up to 750+, and in a few examples get their hands on a <3,000 lb experimental jet with 3,000+ lbs. of thrust, I can say that kind of leap in performance capability usually doesn't go as well as those who did it had hoped. I defer to my previous statement about money, ego, training, and add not having even a minimal amount of respect for performance that far exceeds anything they had previously been exposed to, and didn't even begin to understand.

Having experience doing first flight/flight testing of high performance aircraft I have never flown before (or anyone else for that matter), I would be ecstatic at having the ability to get some proper adult supervision/training before I attempted to drive a beast mode car like that - on a road no less.
I'm far too old, slow, unskilled, and chicken to figure those kinds of things out on my own when there is no need to. :news

I enjoyed reading this general description of the spoiler system on the Veyron...
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On April 19, 2005, inspection officials recorded a top speed average of 408.47 km/h (253.8 mph)...

...To create the optimum aerodynamics, the Bugatti engineers developed three configuration modes. In standard mode, used for speeds up to 220 km/h (137 mph), the rear spoiler system is completely retracted. In handling mode, used at higher velocities, the vehicles nose is pulled down and the monumental rear spoiler deployed. This produces an additional 350 kg (772 lbs) of downforce without compromising the Veyron’s exceptional turn dynamics. And then there is the top speed mode for velocities beyond 375 km/h (233 mph), which is activated before the engine is started. At top speed mode the front diffuser flaps are shut to make the underbody absolutely level, and the spoiler is completely aligned with the chassis, forming a tearing edge – thus, the Veyron is perfectly adapted for top velocities. The downforce is reduced to minimize the strain on the tires, which is already considerable. The car is held down on the road by its own weight and the downforce. The Veyron starts immediately at top speed mode, allowing only for a limited turn of the steering wheel. As soon as the driver brakes, the Veyron automatically switches to handling mode. But those who dare to accelerate consistently on a long, straight road will experience the power of the fastest production vehicle of all times.
DIY aerodynamic guessing can be an enjoyable hobby, but damn, isn't real engineering, design, and testing just too cool? :D
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Still one of the best TG videos on YT:


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That was fantastic rmc, thanks!

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No wonder Michael Schumacher retired, he's slower than me!
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At that speed (250+ mph) the tires will only last about 15 minutes....

But that's ok because the fuel will run out in 12...
I hate when that happens. :O

I doubt I couldn't afford just the cost of tire wear from one of those runs. :'(
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myredvert
Aug 28 2014, 02:40 PM

I enjoyed reading this general description of the spoiler system on the Veyron...
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On April 19, 2005, inspection officials recorded a top speed average of 408.47 km/h (253.8 mph)...

...To create the optimum aerodynamics, the Bugatti engineers developed three configuration modes. In standard mode, used for speeds up to 220 km/h (137 mph), the rear spoiler system is completely retracted. In handling mode, used at higher velocities, the vehicles nose is pulled down and the monumental rear spoiler deployed. This produces an additional 350 kg (772 lbs) of downforce without compromising the Veyron’s exceptional turn dynamics. And then there is the top speed mode for velocities beyond 375 km/h (233 mph), which is activated before the engine is started. At top speed mode the front diffuser flaps are shut to make the underbody absolutely level, and the spoiler is completely aligned with the chassis, forming a tearing edge – thus, the Veyron is perfectly adapted for top velocities. The downforce is reduced to minimize the strain on the tires, which is already considerable. The car is held down on the road by its own weight and the downforce. The Veyron starts immediately at top speed mode, allowing only for a limited turn of the steering wheel. As soon as the driver brakes, the Veyron automatically switches to handling mode. But those who dare to accelerate consistently on a long, straight road will experience the power of the fastest production vehicle of all times.
DIY aerodynamic guessing can be an enjoyable hobby, but damn, isn't real engineering, design, and testing just too cool? :D
Even better is when they brake hard at speed and the spoiler goes up to about a 60-75 degree angle and exerts 6g of aerodynamic braking force!! Those must be some really stout struts!!
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Aug 28 2014, 01:48 PM
Cobrajet25
Aug 4 2014, 01:27 AM
I'd love to see the crowd here keep a car with 750 horsepower on tap under control...after being used to a car with only 55. :lol
That would involve me making sure it had the stickiest tires on it I can find, and only being driven when the roads were clear and dry, preferably pretty warm too.

I've mentioned before my student with the 2013 GT500 who pulled about 900 HP on the chassis dyno and broke a couple of world records with it. He dropped in yesterday to chat. Has a 2015 model on order that he's going to try to pull 1200-1300 HP out of (and I wouldn't bet against him!)

He told me he's "retired" the record breaker and "detuned" it by a couple of hundred HP for tooling around town in. That puts him somewhere around 650-700 HP. Just barely enough for school zones! But this guy has driven it above 200 mph, so he has really good skills to handle that kind of power.

Heck, if I had 10% of that in my Geo, I'd probably get in all kinds of trouble!!
Edited by perfesser, Aug 28 2014, 10:59 PM.
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