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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 25 2014, 11:17 PM (1,470 Views) | |
| badappleny | Aug 26 2014, 03:48 PM Post #16 |
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| Highwayman | Aug 26 2014, 09:10 PM Post #17 |
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My daughter runs her 91 geo 1L out of oil about every 3 months. When this happens I install 3 quarts of oil. The car wont start even with oil squirted into the cylinders. The only way it starts is to get a few friends and push it down the block till it finally starts. Once it starts, it smokes till the squirts of oil I put in the cylinders are blown out the exhaust. The lifters clatter like crazy for up to 30 minutes till they finally pump out the air and fillup with oil.(air compresses, oil doesnt; so it takes quite a bit of time to get the airb out. I assume your brother did not lose the brass oil limiter sitting in the left front corner of the block. I suspission the limiter may also be a one way valve to keep the lifters from bleeding off. The limiter looks like a small bullet shell with a steel ball in it. So... for all of you whoms geos wont start after sitting a few days, all you have to do is push start the car by hand as this is the only way to crank a dry engine with low compression fast enough to get it to start. After it starts it will start normally till you let it sit long enough for all the oil to drain from the pistons and rings. High mileage/low compression 1 litre engines need started every day or so to avoid too low of compression to start due to the oil draining off the pistons. If your geo suddenly wont start for no reason, PUSH START IT!!!! |
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| perfesser | Aug 26 2014, 11:06 PM Post #18 |
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Push starting will just be an exercise in frustration if you don't have a good battery, though. You gotta have spark to touch off the fuel, and the alternator won't produce any unless it has power to energize it. You just can't push start a dead battery, so if it's been sitting a few months, charge your battery before you wear yourself out. Also sounds like you need to do a compression test! With good rings, oil just doesn't "drain back". There is something else wrong inside that little engine, and if it has been regularly "run out of oil", it's not hard to guess where to look ...
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| Bad Bent | Aug 26 2014, 11:28 PM Post #19 |
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Oh, I think someone on the forum would take it off your hands. But you should keep it.Welcome to your new forum, MetroPower..Or Not! Personally, I'd start by changing the PCV valve and buying a Mechanic's Stethoscope. The PCV may be clogged? If so there will be oil in the air cleaner. The Stethoscope will help you pin point the engine noises. I thought I was due for a rebuild on our '96, Goody Two Shoes, but the Stethoscope found a bad EGR gasket. On my '91, more similar to your '90(?), it was the timing advance which wasn't advancing due to some clog in one of the vacuum hoses. Sprayed carb. cleaner in them and the noise went bye bye. If you do decide to rebuild yourself we have a lot of DIY threads... 98 Metro Rebuild Engine Rebuild Top and Bottom Detailed 1.0 Head Rebuild Guide Bottom End Rebuild Guide Rebuilding Hydraulic Lifters Engine Torque Specs Engine Rebuild Kit Thread eBay performance head gaskets Engine Rebuild Post #1 with pictures Engine Rebuild Post #2 with pictures/URL] How to clean a G10/G13 Oil Pump Clean Oil Relief Valve |
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| MetroPower..Or Not | Aug 26 2014, 11:35 PM Post #20 |
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Thanks for the helpful posts, Highwayman and Bad Bent! I will take all of that info into consideration before tearing down the engine. |
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| Bad Bent | Aug 27 2014, 12:12 AM Post #21 |
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Well, the short, "lazy" way would be just a swap like I did with an eBay "pressure tested" engine or something from a junk yard that has good (~170+psi) compression. Both our engines are still going really well.
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| MetroPower..Or Not | Aug 27 2014, 12:05 PM Post #22 |
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I am soooo tempted to do that.... |
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| perfesser | Aug 27 2014, 03:05 PM Post #23 |
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I just bought a decent engine on CL and rebuilt it, then swapped them. Now I still have a decent engine to rebuild if I ever get the urge to do it again. |
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| Justahoby | Aug 28 2014, 12:15 AM Post #24 |
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Geo metro- car for me , engine, not... I was on a long stretch of road today , passing someone in a 75mph zone as he was doing 45. Then the idiot races me??? Fucking idiot. Really so insecure you have to race a geo metro. I texas last I read the law, they look down on not letting another vehicle pass, to the extent that if they speed up and cause you to speed, not letting you pass . Well I honked my horn( really not a good way to take a chill pill)Surprised the little bugger was able to keep up that far. Oh he decides to make me rear end him.. Failed.. Then he turn on a road , in a neighborhood I live in.. I didn't cool off, I said.. It's an fn geo metro , get over it! |
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| Bad Bent | Aug 28 2014, 12:16 AM Post #25 |
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You are probably a mechanic but FYI, here's a How To engine removal thread with pictures: How To Pull A G10 Read it backwards for installing. How To Compression Test. And The Chevrolet White cover Shop/Service Manuals & Electrical Manuals are on eBay.
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| Cubey | Aug 28 2014, 12:38 AM Post #26 |
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As mentioned in another thread, I live the apartment life so I don't have a garage/shop to keep projects in. However.... the Metro being how it is, I may buy junk parts to work on at home then go rent a garage bay for a reasonable rate to go install the rebuilt parts such as steering knuckles (for wheel bearings) or even an engine. Come to think of it, it wouldn't be a bad idea to build an engine ahead of time and then wrap it good in plastic and store in a big plastic tote for later. Even if I somehow never use it, I could always just sell it. After that failed rebuild in a Ford Escort, I am concerned with another engine rebuild all by myself. I wish I had gone to the salvage yard I sold it to and torn the engine apart to try to find what I may have done wrong, but I was insanely busy with other stuff at the time so I didn't. Or if it was a problem with the rebuilt head. It may be that the crankshaft ate up the bearings.. or the rebuilt head I bought was bad and it blew a valve. I'll never know. But now I am scared to attempt another engine rebuild. The 1.9L 4cyl Escort engine is almost the same as a Metro engine in simplicity.. but with one extra cylinder is all. |
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