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California Metros to increase in value
Topic Started: Aug 28 2014, 12:36 PM (3,286 Views)
Car Nut
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Wonder how much I can get for my 91 XFI with 32k original. Maybe wait till first of the year & throw it on Flea Bay. :hmm
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David95237
Aug 28 2014, 04:14 PM
But that thing is a blast to drive, I know you cant keep your foot out of it. So how does the cost compare wen you are playing around?
Very good point... That one we were roasting the tires in when you were here gets economy as shitty as a Prius when you drive it like that. (ok, not quite that bad, but probably under 100 eMPG)
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It probably won't e long (especially in Cali.) till the come up with some economy vehicle tax. Charge ya more for registration cuz ya don't pay as much in taxes, cuz ya buy less gas. Base registration cost on miles driven or some other kind of way to screw you!

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They already tried that in VA
Edited by Car Nut, Aug 28 2014, 05:43 PM.
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Rondawg
Aug 28 2014, 04:52 PM
It probably won't e long (especially in Cali.) till the come up with some economy vehicle tax. Charge ya more for registration cuz ya don't pay as much in taxes, cuz ya buy less gas. Base registration cost on miles driven or some other kind of way to screw you!

Generally the base vehicle registration fees are priced according to weight or weight class. This is because the heavier the vehicle, the more wear and tear is done to the roads that DMV registrations help pay the repair on.

If someone doesn't like the costs associated with owning a car, they don't have to own one. ;)
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$2.99 a gallon here in VA, about $3.25 next door in NC. The difference is the taxes. I should build a gas station right on the state line.
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Cubey
Aug 28 2014, 10:06 PM

If someone doesn't like the costs associated with owning a car, they don't have to own one. ;)
That's pretty glibly spoken by a guy who lives in a town with good mass transit. I drive 30 miles through corn and bean fields to get to work. I expect never to see any form of mass transit in our farming town of 10,000 population.

In order for your ill-conceived statement to be anywhere close to reality, you would have to relocate entire towns and concentrate them around transit hubs, and that will never happen because people wouldn't tolerate any elected official who dared suggest it.

In large cities, car ownership is optional. In 90% of the land area of this country, it is a necessity, and always will be.
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don_dowdy
Aug 28 2014, 10:18 PM
$2.99 a gallon here in VA, about $3.25 next door in NC. The difference is the taxes. I should build a gas station right on the state line.
Gas station owners these days don't make much of anything on gas sales. The money is in the stuff they sell inside the store.

It's not like before the 70's when the oil companies didn't have their hands so deep in the cookie jar. That's why the mom and pop service station are days gone by, with very few exceptions. The few pop and mom type stations around today always sell un-branded gas, in case you haven't noticed. That's no coincidence.

The mom and pop branded gas stations were murdered by the oil companies after the 73-74 oil crisis as a means of gaining bigger profits for themselves. It was the oil company push to corporatize and monopolize gasoline sales, the same way other forms of retail were during that era.
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perfesser
Aug 28 2014, 10:36 PM
Cubey
Aug 28 2014, 10:06 PM

If someone doesn't like the costs associated with owning a car, they don't have to own one. ;)
That's pretty glibly spoken by a guy who lives in a town with good mass transit. I drive 30 miles through corn and bean fields to get to work. I expect never to see any form of mass transit in our farming town of 10,000 population.
That's besides the point.. and I haven't always lived here. It's your choice to live where you do, 30 miles into corn and bean fields where you MUST own a car to get anywhere.

Without those gasoline taxes and DMV fees, you'd literally be driving through the corn and bean fields on dirt roads like this:

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Hate all you want but I'm down for higher gas prices. Less people for me to deal with on the road. Gas would have to be outrageous or I'd have to lose my job to not drive.

-edit- I love hearing people complain about gas prices because it gives me great pleasure in rubbing it I'm their face for the years of hate.

As the flip coin, all price of everything would go up if fuel went up, then people would complain and wages would go up and gas would be normal again, then price gets hiked so all price goes up and another manditory pay increase then it would be normal again....hmm
Edited by ZXTjato, Aug 28 2014, 11:46 PM.
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Shees, Gas is 2.72 or so in Eastern WA due to Washington State Tax Yeah the many idiot greens want gas to be $8 per gallon like in Europe. They think that people will then all drive small cars, maybe for a while but it will just raise the cost of all goods and services that must be transported with fuel and people with extra $s will still drive big gas guzzlers.

You want to ride a bike or have no car-- go for it just don't push the stupidity on people who want a car and the convince it provides. Some greens want every one back in a tee pee.

In Seattle they are getting rid of parking lots trying to force people to bikes and mass transit.... IMPO really really dumb. Car pool and other but no parking lots.... you gotta wonder.

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I think it is hilarous that in WA State they are thinking of charging EVs an extra tax since they use the roads but don't pay a gas tax.

Also, all EVS should be painted black.... why, because we have not got any nice green power left, it is all used up.... so the last energy burned to make electricity is coal and it is black.... so EVs are using Coal power.

Now if you say you want to use Wind or Solar then you need 5Xs as much $s for the power to charge an EV since wind and solar are 5Xs the going rate of hydro, gas or coal electric power.
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nwgeo
Aug 28 2014, 11:58 PM
I think it is hilarous that in WA State they are thinking of charging EVs an extra tax since they use the roads but don't pay a gas tax.

Also, all EVS should be painted black.... why, because we have not got any nice green power left, it is all used up.... so the last energy burned to make electricity is coal and it is black.... so EVs are using Coal power.

Now if you say you want to use Wind or Solar then you need 5Xs as much $s for the power to charge an EV since wind and solar are 5Xs the going rate of hydro, gas or coal electric power.
What are you babbling about? Green power is not "used up".

Once you put up solar panels, there is very little maintenance and there is no cost for the "fuel". No drilling or mining is required either, saving substantial amounts of money to invest in more solar power.

The "problem" with solar is that no one can own or control the source of the "fuel" making it available to anyone who buys a solar panel for free after the cost of the panels/system. That scares the shit out of coal and oil companies since they can't have you by the balls anymore.

I think EVs should have a modest tax on them for road maintenance. That's what fuel tax is for so why should EV owners not have to help pay for roads they also use?

Speaking of green power in WA... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Coulee_Dam
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Yeah, Sorry a little on the harsh side. Gotta go be back in about 30 min. No, no more green power left. Will explain when I get back.

Well in the Northwest our power is mostly hydro power with some nuk and some Coal and gas and small amount of wind and tiny bit of solar.

I consider hydro the ultimate green power and it and all other cheap power is used up.

Wind power is produced at the wrong time of the day and year, can't be stored, kills bats and endarngered birds, 20 % as long of a life as a hydro installation, produces only 30% if its rated power out put, is prone to failure, is only viable due to tax incentive other wise it would be shut down for being too expensive-- after all would you pay 5X as much for you power for your home. Wind power has a black foot print as well, huge concrete under each wind turbine to hold the behemoth Boeing 747 turbine blades in place.

Solar is a minuscule amount and is only at a decent price if you build your own. Stuff in CA is put in only by wealthy companies or individual and also has hefty tax rebates/incentives.

Edited by nwgeo, Aug 29 2014, 02:04 AM.
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nwgeo
Aug 29 2014, 12:34 AM
Yeah, Sorry a little on the harsh side. Gotta go be back in about 30 min. No, no more green power left. Will explain when I get back.
I wasn't aware that the sun has burned out, wind has stopped blowing forever and water has stopped flowing, causing green power to be "used up". :whistle
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