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Direct Fit Muffler; Looking for a no mods. needed muffler
Topic Started: Aug 31 2014, 09:40 PM (1,728 Views)
crankcase


Hi all,

I'm trying to find a supplier for a muffler for a 1995 3-cyl, 5 speed, hatchback.
After searching here and there, all I can find in a new one is a Walker.
But, it is not a direct match! The pipe does not line up and the hanger brackets are not right.

I got something from the junk yard, but it is on its last leg.
Local shops want way too much $ in my opinion.
I don't want to pay more than double the cost of the car at $600 +.
I have not tried a stealership, but I suspect their price - if they even had one -
would make the local shops seem like a bargan.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
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96Geoman


I bought a Walker muffler for my 96 3 cylinder 5 speed and it was a direct fit.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/walker-quiet-flow-ss-stainless-steel-direct-fit-muffler-21197/18290972-P?
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Stiffchezze
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:gp :+1
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crankcase


Hmmm. That looks like the one I saw the pipe. The pipe was not offset like the orginal, but centered. There is not much wiggle room when mounted, so I was leery about welding on it and thus commiting to buying it. The hooks did not line up with the originals'.

Did you all have the same situation?
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96Geoman


I replaced my entire exhaust because of the jingling noise in the catalytic converter and intermediate pipe. I also found that my muffler was filled with rust.

The entire exhaust hangs on rubber hangers except for the exhaust manifold. You should be able to make it work. At the very worst, you might have to loosen the converter pipe at the manifold to allow the exhaust to swing to the side. If you do this, install a new doughnut gasket at the bottom of the exhaust manifold. You don't need to weld the muffler on, just buy some stainless steel clamps or paint some new clamps from an auto supply company.
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Stiffchezze
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Installs with no welding required. Here is a list I posted awhile back:
Stiffchezze
Jun 30 2013, 10:32 AM
Lets get you set up. :hmm
Installs with IIRC a 14mm socket (maybe one or two more). That's it, no welding.
This is an absolutely complete exhaust system from the exhaust manifold back. You may not need everything.
From the top: (all links)
(1) Walker Exhaust Gasket Part No. 31360 $8.99
(1) MagnaFlow Direct Fit Catalytic Converter, Stainless Steel, Overall Length - 49 in. Part No. 23654 $134.99
(1) Walker Exhaust Gasket Part No. 31320 $4.49
(1) Walker Resonator Assembly Part No. 46928 $71.99
(1) Rol Exhaust 1-1/2" Heavy-Duty Muffler Clamp Part No. 517112 $2.59
(1) Walker Quiet-Flow SS Stainless Steel Direct-Fit Muffler Part No. 21197 $85.99
You may also need:
(4) Bosal Exhaust Products Part No. 255-381 $4.99
(2) Bosal Exhaust Products Part No. 251-807 $3.99
(2) Bosal Exhaust Products Part No. 258-942 $14.99
Total price : $366.96
Here's were it gets fun. Apply a code, this one is a good one. (ES123) (dead, but there are others) And well, I'll let you figure it out! :evillol
You should be around $275 after it's all done. Less if you don't need to replace all the parts.


The only part I didn't need was the cat. Everything else installed for me with no issues. ^o)
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Old Man


My cat and forward was OK. All behind the cat was replaced by a small muffler shop that had been operating for over 50 years.

Took the guy 45 minutes. Bent the pipe and installed a generic muffler he had in stock. Charged me $100.00.

He told me the parts and labor was free :) but he charged me the hundred bucks for 45 minutes of heat, soft couch, quiet waiting room and TV usage while I waited. :lol :lol
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Memphis metro


Old Man
Sep 1 2014, 03:50 PM
My cat and forward was OK. All behind the cat was replaced by a small muffler shop that had been operating for over 50 years.

Took the guy 45 minutes. Bent the pipe and installed a generic muffler he had in stock. Charged me $100.00.

100 bucks ouch! He must not have understood he was working on a metro and the car is not worth much more than that.
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They are High Dollar and Hard to find. I get mine at a discount exhaust shop called Quality Exhaust here in WV. They last about 2 years unless you drill a little hole for a water drain (It's humid here). They run about $20.00 plus install. You can also get a pipe spreader at most parts stores and a cheap small muffler and make it fit. If none of this appeals to you try Ebay Motors they probably have one....Good Luck! Boeingtrijet
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96Geoman


boeingtrijet
Sep 6 2014, 02:18 AM
They are High Dollar and Hard to find. I get mine at a discount exhaust shop called Quality Exhaust here in WV. They last about 2 years unless you drill a little hole for a water drain (It's humid here). They run about $20.00 plus install. You can also get a pipe spreader at most parts stores and a cheap small muffler and make it fit. If none of this appeals to you try Ebay Motors they probably have one....Good Luck! Boeingtrijet


The Walker quiet muffler already has a hole drilled in the muffler at the bottom of the inlet side.
Edited by 96Geoman, Sep 6 2014, 06:44 AM.
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crankcase


Thanks for all the feed back! :rocker
I got an exhaust from the junk yard :evillol ,
but the info supplied here will come in handy when I do it right. :thumb
I do have an exhaust leak that sounds like it's around the doughnut gasket.
I guess the gasket was frozen in position for the old pipe even though the new an old look the same? :dunno
Edited by crankcase, Sep 8 2014, 12:26 PM.
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Stiffchezze
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FYI
I replaced mine with one from a junkyard once. I got one year out of it. :shake
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Stiffchezze
Sep 1 2014, 03:41 PM
Installs with no welding required. Here is a list I posted awhile back:
Stiffchezze I tried searching for your Jun 30 2013, 11:32 AM post here and used different search terms but nothing turned up for your original post. Never having done this particular job myself, I'm going to have to do it in a month or so, so I have a little time to prepare. My Geo is a 92 1.0, 5spd. manual. Are there any particular differences between the 92 and the vehicle you used these parts to replace?
Thank you for your list. It's very helpful because I can't afford any welding or other fees involved in replacing this system. :)
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