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Tesla to build new 5 BILLION dollar factory in Nevada; Another Blow to California
Topic Started: Sep 4 2014, 09:41 AM (1,943 Views)
Cubey
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evmetro
Sep 4 2014, 04:49 PM
Strong Christian values that taught me right from wrong, and that money and things were not mine unless I earned them

Matthew 19:21 from the bible. That's all I'm gonna say. :thumb
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There is one hitch in this giddyup. Cal is out of water. Well's are running dry even as I write this. If there is no water, there is nothing. Unless it can come up with more water, Cal is doomed to be a ghost state.
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Cubey
Sep 4 2014, 05:52 PM
Rondawg
Sep 4 2014, 02:04 PM
Companies are leaving Cali, people are leaving Cali (except for illegals) and their economy is a basket case. It's a great example to anybody to see how not to run a state. Kinda like that old song goes...."Tax the rich to feed the poor, till there are no rich no more" Then where will the jobs come from??
They have been saying "California is broke!" for 20 years and yet..... it lives on.

When CA tries to create jobs, such as the high speed rail project, people scoff at it being "money wasted".
Jobs are created by having a business climate that rewards people who actually do create jobs. A climate where it makes economic sense to set up shop. I would bet if Tesla tried to build a factory in Cali there would be all sorts of lawsuits before a shovel hit the ground......some kinda rare snail would loose it's habitat or it would disrupt a turtles mating grounds! As for a high speed rail....if Cali oters/taxpayers want to build it, go ahead and build it but I sure as hell don't want my money spent on it!
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Cubey
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Rondawg
Sep 4 2014, 06:08 PM
As for a high speed rail....if Cali oters/taxpayers want to build it, go ahead and build it but I sure as hell don't want my money spent on it!
So you're against job creation and infrastructure.
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Cubey
Sep 4 2014, 05:57 PM
evmetro
Sep 4 2014, 04:49 PM
Strong Christian values that taught me right from wrong, and that money and things were not mine unless I earned them

Matthew 19:21 from the bible. That's all I'm gonna say. :thumb
Yea, that is what I was taught as well. Great verse. I am so glad that you can see the difference between giving voluntarily like that verse you quoted, and having too much of what you earn for your own family taken involuntarily by people who quote that verse while they are robbing you. And here I was thinking that you were playing for the wrong team all this time!

Tesla is making a wise business decision by taking its business elsewhere.
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evmetro
Sep 4 2014, 06:38 PM
Cubey
Sep 4 2014, 05:57 PM
evmetro
Sep 4 2014, 04:49 PM
Strong Christian values that taught me right from wrong, and that money and things were not mine unless I earned them

Matthew 19:21 from the bible. That's all I'm gonna say. :thumb
Yea, that is what I was taught as well. Great verse. I am so glad that you can see the difference between giving voluntarily like that verse you quoted, and having too much of what you earn for your own family taken involuntarily by people who quote that verse while they are robbing you. And here I was thinking that you were playing for the wrong team all this time!

Tesla is making a wise business decision by taking its business elsewhere.
It's volunteering in the sense of "To be Christ-like is to give away your wealth to the poor -- not to is unchristian", yes.
Edited by Cubey, Sep 4 2014, 06:49 PM.
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Cubey
Sep 4 2014, 06:31 PM
Rondawg
Sep 4 2014, 06:08 PM
As for a high speed rail....if Cali oters/taxpayers want to build it, go ahead and build it but I sure as hell don't want my money spent on it!
So you're against job creation and infrastructure.
I'm against pissing away federal money on Pork Barrel projects where ever they may be. Spending Billions of dollars on a high speed rail that will cost many more millions annually to operate and MAYBE serve .001 of 1% of the population is a massive waste IMO. ESPECIALLY when you just add it to the TRILLIONS of debt that our kids or grandkids are already stuck with!

SoCal it turning back into a desert like it was a few centuries ago. You wanna talk about infrastructure how about nuclear powered de-salinization plants that turn seawater into fresh water like they do in Saudi......No sorry that wont work cuz it would prolly disturb a clam bed!

BTW why are you hijacking my thread? We were talking Tesla not Trains!
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Cubey
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Rondawg
Sep 4 2014, 07:03 PM
ESPECIALLY when you just add it to the TRILLIONS of debt that our kids or grandkids are already stuck with!
You want to fix the budget without raising taxes and doing NOTHING ELSE? Let's cut about 10% of the Pentagon budget and the deficit will be wiped out entirely with a massive surplus.

I don't get people at all. They claim they don't want people getting "everything for free", yet when you get right down to it:

- They want roads kept in top shape
- They want low taxes (counteracts good roads)

- They want a clean, pollution-free place to live
- They want less Government (counteracts pollution control)

- They want jobs
- They don't want jobs if it's Government funded (counteracts wanting jobs)

- They want infrastructure
- They don't want infrastructure they personally might not ever use

What people really mean is: "If I can't benefit from it, no one should have it!"

And that's wrong. :shake
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The federal government is shaking down those of us that work at record levels. Federal tax revenues are at record highs! http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/04/American-revenue-hits-all-time-high
Problem is that what ever they take in, it's never enough. The way to grow the economy is to promote growth. You do not promote growth by making it difficult for business. I wonder how many people will benefit from those jobs Tesla will create? How about the tens of thousands of jobs created all over the southeast by Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Mercedes and so many others that chose to open up factories where a pro business climate existed!
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Cubey
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Rondawg
Sep 4 2014, 08:03 PM
The federal government is shaking down those of us that work at record levels. Federal tax revenues are at record highs! http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/04/American-revenue-hits-all-time-high
The "Heritage Foundation" who is quoted in that article is the liver spotted hands of the Koch brothers. Rich, white billionaires who want to kill the federal government in whole so they can basically be the rulers. Don't believe me?

Let's take a look at David Koch's failed 1980 libertarian presidential run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scMC577lNTU
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I grow tired of discussing this with you. You seem like a smart dude. I know nothing of your life but am quite certain your views/opinions/outlook would be vastly different if you were fortunate enough to have a well paying job working for some evil corporation or a rich one per center that was managing to run a successful business despite all the difficulties a business owner is forced to deal with.
I wish Tesla the best. An American made car that is in every way a technological marvel. Hopefully they can thrive in a pro business environment and as time goes on will become affordable to the masses. Hire more people, make more cars & sell them by the millions! Fact is Cali lost out and will continue to do so based on their failed policies.
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Can you guys take this to a PM?
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Rondawg
Sep 4 2014, 06:08 PM
Cubey
Sep 4 2014, 05:52 PM
Rondawg
Sep 4 2014, 02:04 PM
Companies are leaving Cali, people are leaving Cali (except for illegals) and their economy is a basket case. It's a great example to anybody to see how not to run a state. Kinda like that old song goes...."Tax the rich to feed the poor, till there are no rich no more" Then where will the jobs come from??
They have been saying "California is broke!" for 20 years and yet..... it lives on.

When CA tries to create jobs, such as the high speed rail project, people scoff at it being "money wasted".
Jobs are created by having a business climate that rewards people who actually do create jobs. A climate where it makes economic sense to set up shop. I would bet if Tesla tried to build a factory in Cali there would be all sorts of lawsuits before a shovel hit the ground......some kinda rare snail would loose it's habitat or it would disrupt a turtles mating grounds! As for a high speed rail....if Cali oters/taxpayers want to build it, go ahead and build it but I sure as hell don't want my money spent on it!
:gp

This is something many people never seem to get...the government doesn't create jobs. All the government creates is government, and they have to fund it by taking money from the people who actually DO create jobs, or print money out of thin air, or borrow it from somebody by selling bonds. A state (or country) can only do that for so long...ask the Greeks!

The sales of EVs have slowed because the market has become saturated. All the well-heeled Birkenstock types who want a $50,000 freeway-capable golf cart have one.

If this factory makes batteries for hybrids as well as straight EVs, then it might do well. And it will certainly do even better not having to deal with the California Air Resources Board!

I wouldn't want to set up a factory in a state that I know is going to rape me with taxes just to fund public everything for everybody. It's a global marketplace, and production costs...including taxes...are a big factor to any company that wants to compete with the Chinese or Koreans. The excuse for raising taxes is always "children" or "schools" or "infrastructure", but people have figured out that it is a hustle.

Well, except in California... :lol To me, the choice between California and Nevada would be obvious.
Edited by Cobrajet25, Sep 5 2014, 05:27 AM.
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Cubey
Sep 4 2014, 01:27 PM
The saying "you get what you pay for" goes for taxes, too. The less taxes you pay, the less you're going to see being done.
Yes, and government doing less is ALWAYS a good thing.



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Woodie
Sep 5 2014, 06:23 AM
Cubey
Sep 4 2014, 01:27 PM
The saying "you get what you pay for" goes for taxes, too. The less taxes you pay, the less you're going to see being done.
Yes, and government doing less is ALWAYS a good thing.



:gp

As far as I am concerned, the Federal government has done about $17,738,376,572,060.08 too much!
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