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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 7 2014, 07:29 PM (950 Views) | |
| badappleny | Sep 7 2014, 07:29 PM Post #1 |
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http://vimeo.com/78458486 |
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| me2 | Sep 7 2014, 07:36 PM Post #2 |
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This will save lives. Passengers coulda seen them geese and screamed at Sully to swerve |
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| Coche Blanco | Sep 7 2014, 07:40 PM Post #3 |
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I'm assuming these two sentences are unrelated. |
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| me2 | Sep 7 2014, 07:49 PM Post #4 |
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In this case yes Ok, I guess I have to clarify. I thought it would be in bad taste to use an actual disaster where people were killed. I understand that my comedy may have suffered from this moral imperative. Edited by me2, Sep 7 2014, 07:52 PM.
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| myredvert | Sep 7 2014, 08:09 PM Post #5 |
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I think it goes along with the whole trend towards replacing reality with technology thing in my opinion. From a purely engineering standpoint, it would be a fantastic thing. Windows are a royal pain in the tucas from a structural and maintenance point of view. No windows = lighter, stronger, easier to maintain structure. These guys are boat designers, translated... artists. While they have fancy descriptions of all the wondrous things they can do with projectors, I noticed the lack of reference to studies that asked actual paying passengers if they would mind it. It will be interesting to see (if it ever happens) how many people prefer to be able to see outside. Personally, I think it will be a shame when people lose the opportunity to witness some of the most beautiful sights in nature at an altitude that can at times be above the Tropopause and the usual haze layer that exists with it. Being able to see the curvature of the earth, see oceans and continents you have only seen on a map, including the North Pole, see stars and planets so clearly you can see a some of Jupiters moons with the naked eye, the auroras, meteors/meteor showers, space junk burning up, and the occasional blue jets and red sprites out of the tops of thunderstorms. Sad day when people would rather watch videos and miss an opportunity to see a potential once in a lifetime opportunity display of nature they may only have an opportunity once in their lives to see. But I do fear we may be headed that way. |
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| Freeman | Sep 8 2014, 08:17 AM Post #6 |
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I'm still waiting for the stealth bomber 'V' wing design to take over the passenger airline world. Way me efficient. I heard, some years back, that people were just too scared of the dramatic change and that it would never take off. -pun intended- |
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| me2 | Sep 8 2014, 10:48 AM Post #7 |
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I would ride in one if they offered me two extra inches of leg room. Heck, I'd ride on a broom and give blood during the FLIGHT for some extra leg room. |
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| Freeman | Sep 8 2014, 10:58 AM Post #8 |
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I'd ride in anything. The V shape actually glides better in the event of engine failure, or so I'm told.
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| me2 | Sep 8 2014, 11:02 AM Post #9 |
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I think the windowless plane would actually be a better flying experience because most people on a plane with windows can't see out them anyway. It looks to me like the windowless one actually gives one a better look outside the plane. |
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| myredvert | Sep 8 2014, 11:22 AM Post #10 |
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The concepts of lifting bodies and flying wings offer some major advantages in payload capability and structural design by not requiring everything to be stuffed into a long tube with long wings bolted to the "sides." Ii get the impression that one of the hold ups (other than the HUGE developmental costs and profit potential) is sheer physical size. Even the new Boeing and Airbus models have presented major obstacles with respect to ramp (parking) space, taxiway and runway width as well as the clear distance required to the sides of those. Advances in aviation technology take much longer to find their way to market, to a large extent because they can't just think of something, build it, and sell a new model every year like a car. The engineering, testing, and certification take years even after the design is decided upon, and often that process is usually kept to a minimum by using existing proven technology and concepts. It will happen, but maybe not in our lifetime. I'm not feeling that one me2. Because only maybe 1/4 to 1/3 can see out, it would be better if no one can? Is that like if I can't have a window seat, I don't think anyone should? LOL And if you can't look outside, how is that a better look outside? But in our world where people think reality tv is reality, I guess a movie of the outside world might seem more real to people? If this is something the manufacturer's and airlines are actually interested in, I would imagine the first thing you would see are "test trial" where the windows are blacked out to find out how the customers react to the concept. If they discover people are going to buy a ticket anyway whether they enjoy the experience or not (Southwest, anyone?), then you can bet they will start buying them. You would think that some technology company specializing in fantasy video games would just take their corporate jet, black out the windows, and project images inside on the walls. Then you could feel like you are sitting in a seat with no structure next to you and you can even "see" straight down to the side or through the floor. Oh, and by the way, this company that is "marketing" this idea, I don't know who they are but this is the conceptual equivalent of some small "upstart" "car" manufacturer that says 'hey look at what we are going to build...' And these folks have never built an airplane for real, let alone some large corporate jet or commercial airliner. Edited by myredvert, Sep 8 2014, 11:36 AM.
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| Coche Blanco | Sep 8 2014, 11:28 AM Post #11 |
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Not something I thought about being a hurdle, but it makes perfect sense. |
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| 490k | Sep 8 2014, 12:33 PM Post #12 |
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They'll load it with banner ads and popups. |
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| Cubey | Sep 8 2014, 01:04 PM Post #13 |
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Maybe they should place cameras outside so you gave the option of seeing scenery around the plane on the surround screens inside. A virtual "glass dome" plane, if you will. Edited by Cubey, Sep 8 2014, 01:04 PM.
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| myredvert | Sep 8 2014, 03:15 PM Post #14 |
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That was what I pictured as to what they were proposing. Camera outside the plane to show live video in the cabin is not new, well not to the extent you suggest and what I think they are proposing. However, there is a downside. in the 80s, some airliners started installing cameras/video systems that showed the view out the cockpit window during takeoff and landing right on the cabin screens/monitors. After the DC-10 accident in Chicago in 1991 where all 270 some people in the plane died with many of them watching a live "front row view' of their own impending deaths, the cockpit camera idea abruptly ended. I was working at a major airline several years ago and they had a flight that had to return for a precautionary landing at a major US airport due to a malfunction, but had to fly for a few hours first to burn fuel to reduce landing weight first. While several of us were headed to the simulator to work on possible abnormal landing procedures, I went to grab a cup of coffee and noticed on one of the several big screen tvs that a news station had a helicopter flying near the plane as it approached the airport for a low pass it was going to do prior to the actual landing. It suddenly dawned on me that every seat back had a Direct TV system in it, and it was likely some were watching the news of their own predicament as it was happening. One call to the crew and the tv monitors were turned off, the plane was stopped safely, no one in back had the opportunity to watch their own landing on live tv, and they all lived happily ever after. I do think this will be a reality someday, but i don't think that an airline is going to say 'we want a bunch of these!" without either making absolutely sure the passengers won't care one way or another enough to affect ticket sales, or the plane has unique capabilities that favors that kind of trade off. Sad, but I fear insightfully true! Since there will be limited amount of time for the ads, they'll probably also bury subliminal messages in the scenery images. |
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| Coche Blanco | Sep 8 2014, 03:20 PM Post #15 |
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There's enough of a delay that they would probably be dead by the time it actually aired to see it.
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But in our world where people think reality tv is reality, I guess a movie of the outside world might seem more real to people?
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