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New tires to the rear?; Just saw this
Topic Started: Feb 5 2015, 03:05 PM (4,123 Views)
cwatkin


http://blog.allstate.com/new-tires-rear/?cid=CSY-PB-ZM-outbrain_com:New-Tires-To-The-Rear

I had always heard you put them on the front because that is where all the steering and most of the braking take place. Anyway, this little article and video seem to indicate the opposite.

Any opinions here? If you go with the video, it is a no-brainer but everyone has an opinion.

Conor
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Mrbreeze


Wow, I never new that, I alway have put new on the front, think I'll need to rethink that..
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cwatkin


Yes, that was always what I had heard and done. The new tires went on the front but this makes me think it is the other way.

Conor
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GTluver
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The MN welder.

Well I would say it doesn't matter, as long as you go the proper speed for the conditions.
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Bad Bent
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Facetious Educated Donkey

"However, if the new tires are on the rear, the fronts will lose grip before the rears – which can be an easier situation to cope with. Release the accelerator, leave your hands where they are, and wait for the traction to return. Avoid turning the steering wheel more or applying the brakes."

Better known as "understeer." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understeer_and_oversteer

It is probably what most people do when they head into a corner to fast and can't turn - take your foot off the gas. BUT they are likely to hit the brakes which puts them into a spin anyway.

Understeer bothers me more because I have no steering. Hit a patch of ice and you can't steer and you are aimed as some immoveable object.

Oversteering is when the rear end wants to pass the front. Then you steer into the direction the rear end is going and stay on the gas. Even if you let off the gas you are likely to do a 180 deg. spin. With FWD if you stay on the gas you will be "pulling" the car out of the spin.

GTluver: "...as long as you go the proper speed for the conditions." :thumb :thumb
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perfesser
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:gp :+1 :D
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1DCGUY
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Don't be a "Richard"

GTluver
Feb 5 2015, 03:32 PM
Well I would say it doesn't matter, as long as you go the proper speed for the conditions.
What the hell is this?? :hmm

Common sense from my son?? :whistle

Damn, I must have raised him right after all!! LOL :thumb

:evillol :evillol :evillol :evillol :evillol
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snowfish
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Basic GearHead

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Better known as "understeer."

Or, in simpler terms.................

Understeer = hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer = hit the wall with the rear of the car
Horsepower = how fast you hit the wall
Torque = how hard you hit the wall

^o) :thumb
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I must have raised him right after all!

I'll try to fix that at the next meet. ^o) :whistle :lol
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1DCGUY
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Don't be a "Richard"

snowfish
Feb 5 2015, 05:33 PM
I'll try to fix that at the next meet. ^o) :whistle :lol
Shhhh, don't tell anyone about the drag racing Metro's!! :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Metromightymouse
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1DCGUY
Feb 5 2015, 06:14 PM
snowfish
Feb 5 2015, 05:33 PM
I'll try to fix that at the next meet. ^o) :whistle :lol
Shhhh, don't tell anyone about the drag racing Metro's!! :whistle :whistle :whistle
WHAT? :holycrap Drag racing Metros? Surely you jest...
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fireflyin


fwd you always put to the front thats where braking and stopping power is think of it this way if u have semi bold tires in the front and awesome tires in the back your sliding little before u stop i tried it when i put grips on front i stop way better AWD cars u always replace 4 tires cause it will screw up transmission or something pickups or fwd u can get away with 2 tires front (fwd) or 2 tires at back (rwd pickups) i would rather spend 200$ on getting 2 other tires then to have a repair bill at body shop for 2000? cause u hydroplaned or couldn't stop fast enough for the idiot that was crossing the road its really common sense

for winter

you can by 2 tires for rear or front depending if its fwd or rwd and throw them on back or front or for great stopping u can get 4 i mean its all up too you 2000 repair bill or 200+ for tires im not your dad but i can be the person who said told you so lol
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TripleThreat


http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTiresRear.do
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punkozuna
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fireflyin
Feb 6 2015, 01:18 AM
fwd you always put to the front thats where braking and stopping power is
Yup. I want control where I can use it to steer and brake. I can correct for a spin. When the front tires break loose, your going straight into the nearest obstacle.
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perfesser
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TripleThreat
Feb 6 2015, 01:59 AM
This has been the tire industry's recommendation for as long as I can remember, and I can remember a long ways back! Others may disagree, counting on their own abilities, but I fear they are deluding themselves with false comfort.

If you want to reduce the risk of hydroplaning, reduce your speed. If the water is deeper than your tread, at some speed you will lose contact with the planet. It's just that simple.

Case closed!

BTW - if you want to discuss your own personal opinions on hydroplaning, I can bring up Walter Horne's work. He spent his entire career at NASA researching the subject and has defined the science involved.
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1DCGUY
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Don't be a "Richard"

Folks, don't take this deal lightly.
I learned the hard way on why you need good tires on the back of your Metro, or any car for that matter.
I drove a friends Metro after working on it for a few days in the winter with snow on the roads, he had just put new Snow tires on the front of the car, but left the old tires on the back of the car.
I would have never believed that a Metro could spin out being a front wheel drive car, but it did every time I turned a corner. :O
The first time it happened, I turned a corner, and damn near got run over by a semi when the car spun in front of him. :scared
Thankfully he stopped in time!!

DO NOT dismiss this as BS, take it from someone that drives in the snow often, that you need good tires in the back, and not just on the front. :thumb

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