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Anti - Metro Propaganda
Topic Started: May 31 2015, 09:10 PM (1,603 Views)
92blumetro
jack of all trades, master of two

some guys at work bug me, ''why don't you buy a new car?''
whats wrong with the one I have? I paid $75 for it, installed a used fuel pump, and currently get over 50 mpg.....your hemi costs you $700 a month, only gets 16 mpg, if your lucky....your tires cost $400 each, mine cost me $60 each.....and I cant burn rubber like your hemi, but my skins last a lot longer.
they talk shit, but then I take them for a ride in the gti or t3....puts a grin on my face, a look of surprise on theirs!
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Just need a row of decals for all the major manufacturers like these going all across your back window. That will make everyone around you friendly :D
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t3ragtop
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i have been building vintage restorations and custom project cars for 40 years. ^o)

hot rodding a metro is just like hot rodding big iron, just as much fun but cheaper. :deal

i'd park either of my verts next to a street rod any time and pop the hood. ;)
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t3ragtop
Jun 2 2015, 04:18 PM
i have been building vintage restorations and custom project cars for 40 years. ^o)

hot rodding a metro is just like hot rodding big iron, just as much fun but cheaper. :deal

i'd park either of my verts next to a street rod any time and pop the hood. ;)
Sounds like my F450 at 21 yrs old with crushed cab inoperable drivers door wires hanging from back where PO butchered it no window just plexi glass on drivers door. People go to pass when the lane splits in two going up hill/mountain I let loose all 415 hp with 800 lbs of torque the turbo winds up with a whistle pushing you into the seat and big grin comes across my face and they look at you in disbelief. Barely even puff of smoke comes out unlike most you see rolling coal like a idiot. 289,000 miles and counting. Afterwards some like to get close as possible to your tail to pass at the next chance and I give them a taste of 6 wheels locking up with disc brakes on all wheels hydro boost assisted. Go ahead and slam the back of my truck, there is chunk of iron there in that flat bed and it doesn't give easy, first the radiator will be punctured by the hitch.
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Tim Keith


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Jun 1 2015, 11:17 PM
Tim Keith
Jun 1 2015, 10:35 PM
My '64 Valiant ..........
My 61 Valiant was all those things to----and----it was so damned ugly you had to close your eyes to walk into the garage to keep from fainting........... :lol :lol
I think a slant six rebuild with a modern piston and ring set could go a half million miles without burning too much oil. The cast iron rings that Chrysler used wear the cylinders relatively fast. I still have slant six powered vehicles. A 225 with 9.5:1 CR in a light Valiant can get pretty good fuel economy, more than 30 MPG with the 170 six. Hardly anyone builds the 170 except for stock restoration projects, they are about as slow as a Metro, but really smooth. I have a 170 that I'd like to build, wimpy as they are, the 170 is the motor than won the '61 NASCAR race for compact cars.
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Metromightymouse
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Jun 2 2015, 07:00 PM
t3ragtop
Jun 2 2015, 04:18 PM
i have been building vintage restorations and custom project cars for 40 years. ^o)

hot rodding a metro is just like hot rodding big iron, just as much fun but cheaper. :deal

i'd park either of my verts next to a street rod any time and pop the hood. ;)
Sounds like my F450 at 21 yrs old with crushed cab inoperable drivers door wires hanging from back where PO butchered it no window just plexi glass on drivers door. People go to pass when the lane splits in two going up hill/mountain I let loose all 415 hp with 800 lbs of torque the turbo winds up with a whistle pushing you into the seat and big grin comes across my face and they look at you in disbelief. Barely even puff of smoke comes out unlike most you see rolling coal like a idiot. 289,000 miles and counting. Afterwards some like to get close as possible to your tail to pass at the next chance and I give them a taste of 6 wheels locking up with disc brakes on all wheels hydro boost assisted. Go ahead and slam the back of my truck, there is chunk of iron there in that flat bed and it doesn't give easy, first the radiator will be punctured by the hitch.
So to make sure I understand, on a 2 lane highway the person behind you waits for a passing lane and when one comes, instead of maintaining your speed you floor it so that they are trapped behind you (and regardless of smoke, diesels stink, so they're also stuck sucking your exhaust). Next, when they try to set up to be able to clear you at the next passing opportunity you slam on the brakes to attempt to wreck them? I have to assume after that you drive off at top speed since the 6 stripes on the pavement might put you at fault in the police report.
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Um, wow. I didn't really understand the significance of the story until it was quoted. Kind of scary, really- like something out of the movie," Duel", starring Dennis Weaver. Humility, compassion, and respect go along way to making life better for everybody.
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Metromightymouse
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I kinda figure there is some bluster or missing detail, but you never know...
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Here's some hilariously transparent FUD from Car & Driver:

http://m.caranddriver.com/features/save-gas-or-die-trying
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The later models did address the safety issues, and the rest of it was BS- and it hurt my tender feelings. Boy seeing a Metro with 12" wheels looks surreal to me, now.
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Freeman
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Jun 3 2015, 05:11 AM
Here's some hilariously transparent FUD from Car & Driver:

http://m.caranddriver.com/features/save-gas-or-die-trying
Counter point:

Old Not-So-Faithful

Unless the person who bought this Porsche is the original owner and was currently 65 years old when he bought it, it has been abused. Why buy a sports car if you aren't going to drive it like a sports car? Most of those cars get abused from the test drive until they are sold. Mr. and Ms. TurboEF buy a car and take care of it because if it dies, we can't just get another one. It isn't our 'weekend toy'. So that $7,000 econo piece was probably owned by someone who cared at one point.

Safety

You better tell every hot rod owning, motorcycle driving, boat riding, person in America that they don't have air bags or ABS! Yes, times change and things get better and safety is improved. But the guy with a '92 XFI still has a seatbelt and steel between him and you that the '15 Harley doesn't.

Fast Track to the Slow Lane

This was the most "I should put a gun in my own mouth and pull the trigger" argument I have heard in awhile, and I read the news daily! The guy behind me is going to shoot me for being slow? Geez, all those school buses full of children deserve a moment of silence. Grandma, every freight liner, every USPS delivery truck, every RV and any guy with a lifted truck struggling to pull a 10' trailer needs to look out for the guy with a sawed off shotgun.

He even states that "The best we could muster in a ’92 Metro was 39 mpg". Really? 40 MPG full throttle all day, show me anything that can do that. The new Mirage boast great fuel economy but drops to nearly 20 MPG at full throttle. The new F150 probably gets single digits speeding around wide open from light to light.

"When we last tested seven $15K compacts, we measured an average 0-to-60-mph time of 9.4 seconds, which is more than tolerable, especially when 30-something-mpg fuel economy is involved. Better yet, most did not suffer from ropy shifters and the kind of handling maladies that come with 13-inch wheels and bicycle tires. "

Oh boy. $15,000 and $1,500 look similar, but that is where the similarities stop. Of course $15,000 handles and looks better. It better! My $150,000 house and a $1,500,000 house better not have the same master bath.

Save the World: Flatten a Geo

Flatten a Geo and buy a H2 because car production, gas production, crushing a car, and filling the land fill is all free of hazardous emissions. Even if the H2 put out less hazardous emissions by some stroke of God's hand, the rest of the cost associated with this statement are atrocious.

High Risk of Carjacking

I don't have the patience to argue this one.

No one is buying a $7,200 Geo in MINT condition with like 20 dealer miles on it. That is a collectable, not something on the street. Just because it happened once doesn't make it the standard. By that mind set, every Porsche runs a couple million dollars because a mint condition one from the early '70's just sold for that.

This was stupid. :beer
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Jun 3 2015, 10:02 AM
Dundo Duction
Jun 3 2015, 05:11 AM
Here's some hilariously transparent FUD from Car & Driver:

http://m.caranddriver.com/features/save-gas-or-die-trying
Counter point:

Old Not-So-Faithful

Unless the person who bought this Porsche is the original owner and was currently 65 years old when he bought it, it has been abused. Why buy a sports car if you aren't going to drive it like a sports car? Most of those cars get abused from the test drive until they are sold. Mr. and Ms. TurboEF buy a car and take care of it because if it dies, we can't just get another one. It isn't our 'weekend toy'. So that $7,000 econo piece was probably owned by someone who cared at one point.

Safety

You better tell every hot rod owning, motorcycle driving, boat riding, person in America that they don't have air bags or ABS! Yes, times change and things get better and safety is improved. But the guy with a '92 XFI still has a seatbelt and steel between him and you that the '15 Harley doesn't.

Fast Track to the Slow Lane

This was the most "I should put a gun in my own mouth and pull the trigger" argument I have heard in awhile, and I read the news daily! The guy behind me is going to shoot me for being slow? Geez, all those school buses full of children deserve a moment of silence. Grandma, every freight liner, every USPS delivery truck, every RV and any guy with a lifted truck struggling to pull a 10' trailer needs to look out for the guy with a sawed off shotgun.

He even states that "The best we could muster in a ’92 Metro was 39 mpg". Really? 40 MPG full throttle all day, show me anything that can do that. The new Mirage boast great fuel economy but drops to nearly 20 MPG at full throttle. The new F150 probably gets single digits speeding around wide open from light to light.

"When we last tested seven $15K compacts, we measured an average 0-to-60-mph time of 9.4 seconds, which is more than tolerable, especially when 30-something-mpg fuel economy is involved. Better yet, most did not suffer from ropy shifters and the kind of handling maladies that come with 13-inch wheels and bicycle tires. "

Oh boy. $15,000 and $1,500 look similar, but that is where the similarities stop. Of course $15,000 handles and looks better. It better! My $150,000 house and a $1,500,000 house better not have the same master bath.

Save the World: Flatten a Geo

Flatten a Geo and buy a H2 because car production, gas production, crushing a car, and filling the land fill is all free of hazardous emissions. Even if the H2 put out less hazardous emissions by some stroke of God's hand, the rest of the cost associated with this statement are atrocious.

High Risk of Carjacking

I don't have the patience to argue this one.

No one is buying a $7,200 Geo in MINT condition with like 20 dealer miles on it. That is a collectable, not something on the street. Just because it happened once doesn't make it the standard. By that mind set, every Porsche runs a couple million dollars because a mint condition one from the early '70's just sold for that.

This was stupid. :beer
I pulled my airbag module out, wiring and sensors going next.
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92blumetro
jack of all trades, master of two

I offered a co-worker a 92 geo for a buck, as long as I get to buy it back.....he was hard up for a vehicle....he said,"thanks for the offer, but its not my style"
so he bought another co-workers 92 1 ton suburban (for way more than a buck!)
now he is complaining about how hard it is on gas....gets maybe 7 mpg
I offered to help him with the head gaskets on his other car (v6 ford fwd)
but he watched you-tube videos, and told me it looked too hard to do...
so now when he asks for help, I tell him I am too busy.....
Edited by 92blumetro, Jun 4 2015, 07:21 PM.
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Tim Keith


If I cared what people think about my car I'd be driving something else a long time ago. I don't care about those critics. Of the ordinary cars of the '90s, I think Metros will become collectibles.
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Metromightymouse
Jun 3 2015, 03:40 AM
ace.of_alltrades
Jun 2 2015, 07:00 PM
t3ragtop
Jun 2 2015, 04:18 PM
i have been building vintage restorations and custom project cars for 40 years. ^o)

hot rodding a metro is just like hot rodding big iron, just as much fun but cheaper. :deal

i'd park either of my verts next to a street rod any time and pop the hood. ;)
Sounds like my F450 at 21 yrs old with crushed cab inoperable drivers door wires hanging from back where PO butchered it no window just plexi glass on drivers door. People go to pass when the lane splits in two going up hill/mountain I let loose all 415 hp with 800 lbs of torque the turbo winds up with a whistle pushing you into the seat and big grin comes across my face and they look at you in disbelief. Barely even puff of smoke comes out unlike most you see rolling coal like a idiot. 289,000 miles and counting. Afterwards some like to get close as possible to your tail to pass at the next chance and I give them a taste of 6 wheels locking up with disc brakes on all wheels hydro boost assisted. Go ahead and slam the back of my truck, there is chunk of iron there in that flat bed and it doesn't give easy, first the radiator will be punctured by the hitch.
So to make sure I understand, on a 2 lane highway the person behind you waits for a passing lane and when one comes, instead of maintaining your speed you floor it so that they are trapped behind you (and regardless of smoke, diesels stink, so they're also stuck sucking your exhaust). Next, when they try to set up to be able to clear you at the next passing opportunity you slam on the brakes to attempt to wreck them? I have to assume after that you drive off at top speed since the 6 stripes on the pavement might put you at fault in the police report.
Let me fill in the details, doing 5 to 10 mph alreayd over the limit no reason to pass and no diesel fumes to inhale, just as clean as next truck on the road, if it stinks then Metros must stink. Which I know they don't. Now to put my words back into the way I put it, "Afterwards some like to get close as possible to your tail to pass at the next chance and I give them a taste of 6 wheels locking up with disc brakes on all wheels hydro boost assisted brakes", never said I waited to slam the brakes when they go to pass on next chance and there is miles before any passing lanes come up and only time or places I speed up like this in zones where speed limit increases, only ones get brakes is ones who ride my tail. As for driving off like you put it, are you couple fries short of happy meal to instigate a useless internet fight with one of us getting banned. Sounds like we got a diesel or big truck hater in here. :shake
Edited by Spud, Jun 4 2015, 10:11 PM.
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