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| For the Elio faithful ...; Latest propaganda release from Paul | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 14 2015, 01:13 AM (2,191 Views) | |
| perfesser | Jun 14 2015, 01:13 AM Post #1 |
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This update also includes a short clip of the first engine on a dyno. Didn't sound like they were loading it too heavily to me, although they did rev it up. Lies, damned lies, and Elio press releases.
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| Stubby79 | Jun 14 2015, 03:16 AM Post #2 |
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If we don't believe in these lies, what do we have to believe in or look forward to? as long as something else comes along soon after to look forward to instead! |
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| myredvert | Jun 14 2015, 10:24 AM Post #3 |
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Wow! What an amazing design! And an even more amazing price! That man truly seems like a visionary who will certainly change the auto industry forever.![]() I'm keeping my eyes peeled as I am so excited about the prospect of seeing one of those on the road any day now and I'm going to send the largest deposit I can because want one as soon as possible.. Excuse me while I eat a Snickers bar.. No sir, I would not consider that "failing" at all. However, missing the production target by several years and changing that date more often than most people change their underwear, I would. ![]() That's very honorable Sir Paul. But, let's get back to that target production date thing... Don't you also want to hit that target "because you said you would?" Especially considering you have been holding on to people's interest-free deposit money all this time... Are you just painfully and obviously unqualified to manage the development and production of a new vehicle, to include lacking the ability to come up with a realistic development schedule and meeting it, or does that failure, intentionally or otherwise, actually benefit the process by delaying production while you continue to fish with bait that continues to rot more with each passing I personally would not be interest in anything that is a product of such an incompetent process. I would rather pay an artist like evmetro to cut up a Metro and re-assemble it into trike design, install a Glenngine and get 80+ mpg on the highway with it than be a part of enabling Mr E. to keep writing the script for a story that won't even rise to the level of a movie of the week in the grand scheme of automotive and Securities Exchange Commission history. Feel better? I sure do. ![]() |
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| Spud | Jun 14 2015, 12:02 PM Post #4 |
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| Tim Keith | Jun 14 2015, 07:49 PM Post #5 |
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The comparison with Tesla is unfair as that company has received huge federal government subsidies. If Elio had been given same treatment these cars would be on the road. Whatever you think of the "lies" around the Elio, it is what it is, and none of use are paying for it. Elon Musk defends $4.9 billion in government money for his companies http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-elon-musk-defends-subsidies-20150601-htmlstory.html |
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| myredvert | Jun 14 2015, 08:11 PM Post #6 |
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But this is not a car, it's a motorcycle. The Tesla is a real car using a technology that is becoming more and more mainstream every day, not to mention the fact that they already proved they are capable of building a car and delivering it to customers. There doesn't seem to be a lot to compare between Tesla and their ability to produce a real car and Elio. It's justmy opinion, but based on how Elio has "done business," I SERIOUSLY doubt that if they had given a buttload of developmental money from the government that it would be much less of a circus than it is now, if at all. Money can't fix what's really broken with that company/project. Actually, some of "us" are paying for it. Not me, but I believe there are a few members, and they sure deserve better treatment of their deposit money than Elio is giving them.
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| Metromightymouse | Jun 14 2015, 08:20 PM Post #7 |
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It's also worth noting that subsidies are generally given to companies that are developing new technology that will bring benefits to the nation to help offset the cost of development. That is the exact opposite of Elio's stated business plan. He's not supposed to need a bunch of government money since it's all old technology. |
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| 68custom | Jun 14 2015, 08:35 PM Post #8 |
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while I would never buy one of these things he does make a convincing presentation of this death trap. In state that require Helmets would you be requires to wear one in one of these? |
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| 68custom | Jun 14 2015, 08:36 PM Post #9 |
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everytime I see a pic of one I imagine a wheel flying down the road after it had been peeled off after the "car" has been sideswiped! |
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| myredvert | Jun 14 2015, 08:56 PM Post #10 |
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yes. Some states are changing their laws to reflect differences for "enclosed cab motorcycles," but helmets would still be required in many states. |
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| aaronvincent | Jun 14 2015, 10:19 PM Post #11 |
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Mr Mojo Risin'
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| myredvert | Jun 15 2015, 01:06 AM Post #12 |
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At least Preston Tucker made 51 cars, and he was acquitted of fraud charges. Elio hasn't accomplished either of those two important milestones yet for his motorcycle. ![]() And I don't think the Elio will sell for 4x the proposed price, mostly because if they even make 1 or more to sell, I doubt they could survive past selling thousands of them at the promised price to depositors or the virtually certain class action suit that will happen if they try to jack the price up on those they promised the 6800 to. And I doubt any Elio will ever be worth > $1,000,000. Ever. ![]() Why can't we just get a kit? |
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| Freeman | Jun 15 2015, 05:52 AM Post #13 |
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The Family Man
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Too expensive. http://www.race-car-replicas.com/rcr917.html The 917 kit car is $40,000 without a motor. Not exactly apples to apples, but it is the best comparison I can come by. |
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| Stubby79 | Jun 15 2015, 09:30 AM Post #14 |
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I don't care for the looks of the 917, but the tube frame without the body on it looks like a riot to drive! |
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| Freeman | Jun 15 2015, 01:42 PM Post #15 |
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It's a race car, not really the prettiest. A flat 12 that does 0-60 mph in 2.3 seconds and 60-120 mph in another 3, finally topping out at 240 mph. I think the fascination with a car that could do that in the early '70s is the driving force behind it more so than pure beauty. I'd love being one of these guys:
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It's a race car, not really the prettiest. A flat 12 that does 0-60 mph in 2.3 seconds and 60-120 mph in another 3, finally topping out at 240 mph. I think the fascination with a car that could do that in the early '70s is the driving force behind it more so than pure beauty. 
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