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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 24 2015, 03:50 PM (6,526 Views) | |
| cwatkin | Jun 24 2015, 03:50 PM Post #1 |
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OK, we all see how evil the Confederate Flag is now. It is apparent by listening to the mainstream media that the Civil War was ONLY fought over enslaving blacks. Of course not but stores and such are now pulling merchandise with the flag off their shelves. It isn't a big deal to me but what about something else that comes along next? Remember the report that the government issued a few years back that said terrorists might be likely to drive cars with veterens status bumper stickers and AMERICAN FLAGS of all things? WHAT? I can see having an ISIS flag or something attracting attention but an AMERICAN FLAG???? Anyway, I always seem to attract the crazies and this past week was no exception. I have been working to repair an LED sign board for a church for the past month. The company that sold the sign went out of business and since many of the parts are proprietary, we had to rebuild some and were able to replace a few others sourced only from China. The sign was over $20,000 new and they still cost about this much so spending some money to fix it was worthwhile. Well, I got it up and running yesterday and the church was very happy and appreciative. They paid me, told me to use their sign as advertising, and I went on my way. So, I get home and post pictures of the repaired sign on my personal and business Facebook page. I tagged the church and the priest so anyone who is affiliated with either of them would get this in their feed. Anyway, some random guy jumps my case. He basically says it was a good thing when that sign was broken as it uses electricity and is destroying the environment and he doesn't exactly appreciate the message being displayed on the sign. The sign had messages like "Catholics Come Home", the church name and phone number, plus the frequency of the church radio station alternating through on 10 second intervals. I am not Catholic and not particularly religious but saw NOTHING on this sign that was offensive. I was proud to have repaired an unusual and hard to service piece of equipment and thought this was a great thing that the church was saving money being able to repair it instead of replacing it. Anyway, this one guy really jumped on me like what I had done was some horrible thing. I made mention that sometimes my best work is hidden inside of a dark closet but this was on display along the main drag through town almost directly across the street from Wal-Mart for everyone to see. For anyone in rural America, being next to a Wal-Mart is always a good thing. There are all kinds of businesses that don't need to advertise just because they are right by Wal-Mart. Anyway, I thought repairing an electronic church sign was innocent enough but I guess not. You would think I sold cocaine instead of repairing electronics with some of the stories I have to tell. People are just nuts these days and it seems to be getting worse. Conor |
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| rmcelwee | Jun 24 2015, 04:21 PM Post #2 |
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amazon-bans-confederate-flags-still-sells-nazi-merchandise/
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| cwatkin | Jun 24 2015, 04:27 PM Post #3 |
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While the NAZIs had a few good things (Think CARS - The Beetle was the original GEO METRO!), historically they were one of the worst. The southern US was nothing like that. That is just stupid to have NAZI stuff on Amazon but not the rebel flag. Again, this is political correctness out of control. Conor |
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| Spud | Jun 24 2015, 10:08 PM Post #4 |
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We should ban selling Mexican flags in the US since we on this propagandist path with the Don't Tread On Me flag hmmm let's see what/who else we can pick on. |
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| geogonfa | Jun 24 2015, 10:12 PM Post #5 |
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Cant pick on immigrants...they make the politicians happy... |
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| robertino | Jun 25 2015, 03:32 AM Post #6 |
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The problem with the confederate is not with the flag itself , it's deep meaning for what or who used it as their calling card...THE KKK !! The " Battle flag of the Confederate" got a really big stain when the KKK would proudly carry it as is did its lynching and cross burning. It became a symbol of oppression and fear towards anyone who was deemed not white. So the flag itself is not the problem it's the people who carried it . Just like the Swastika flag for the Nazis !!! The swastika if you know history , you know that the symbol is actually a Chinese character and it's the sacred and auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. It has been around for 10000 years BC and it was used even by the Romans. BUT when the Nazi's used it for them selves it lost it's positive meaning and took on a more negative meaning in the eyes and minds of the world. Mind you the meaning never changed from "lucky or auspicious object" but it became synonymous with war, death and killing of Jews, Gypsies and anyone else not deemed Aryan. The whole problem would just go away if the people of the SOUTH would just fly the Bonnie Blue Flag which was used as an unofficial flag during the early months of 1861.Or the Stars and Bars ( with the 13 stars ) would be fine since that is the First National Flag. But you know the problem will still be there because people don't want to be educated they just want what they want and you have no right to tell them they cant have it ! |
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| Metromightymouse | Jun 25 2015, 05:10 AM Post #7 |
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I hope the random guy actually walked to your location since almost all other methods are destroying the environment in some fashion. Ooh, wait, I hope he was nude or wearing clothing made of naturally deceased plant or animal materials since every manufacturing process causes damage to the environment. If not, call him a poser that isn't truly dedicated to his cause and move on with your life. Actually, it's probably just best to ignore the crazies. |
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| ONEHARDHEAD | Jun 25 2015, 05:14 AM Post #8 |
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I'm glad we are concentrating on the important things in life. We must have found a cure for cancer, AIDS, the common cold, and Iran and Israel get along, right? I'm beginning to think that the majority of the human race is too dumb for their own good, starting with politicians (and the folks who put them in office). |
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| Freeman | Jun 25 2015, 05:40 AM Post #9 |
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Robert gets my thumbs up! Swastika has a deep eastern Asian religious history. It was used by the Nazis and now it is the worst thing in the world. I'd personally like to rock one on my car door panels for "good fortune", the literal meaning of the swastika. The confederate flag is no different to me. I grew up WELL past the Civil War era and the confederate flag was something that many southern people identified as part of 'being from the south.' It was like a state flag for a whole region. Of course it is ruined by the KKK and extremists. It is really a shame that the majority is being influence by the extremist minority. EDIT: I just read an article about Rep. James Clyburn and his talk to President Obama. “That flag is a sign, a symbol, of rebellion, of defiance, of suppression. That’s what that flag is, and everybody knows that,” he said. That gets me hot! I have never once, in my entire life, looked at the confederate flag, prior to this recent incident, and had anything racist come through my head. I knew a few boys who flew the flag on their trucks in high school. Were they racist? Not that I could tell. They were just southern country boys who loved their momma, beer, hunting and mudding. Maybe I should be more understanding of those who feel this flag is really an issue. Edited by Freeman, Jun 25 2015, 06:01 AM.
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| myredvert | Jun 25 2015, 06:55 AM Post #10 |
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Sometimes we stigmatize things that don't deserve it. The Nazi flag or similar emblems bearing the swastika deserve it, the symbol itself doesn't. Unfortunately it can be difficult, if not impossible for some to separate the two. |
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| Freeman | Jun 25 2015, 07:14 AM Post #11 |
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Difficult should not be impossible. We were talking about this issue at work and I am by far the youngest person here, probably 30 years difference between me and most people that work here. I heard the "Us vs. Them" argument and "They should just go back to where they are from". While I don't agree with any of that, I accept that as their opinion. |
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| dogman65 | Jun 25 2015, 07:18 AM Post #12 |
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I grew up in a poor section of Philadelphia, I'm white. There was a confederate flag painted on a street nearby with the words "the south will rise again". Being about 10 years old at the time, the 50's. I had to ask what that meant, and was told it was something against the blacks. Then when I was older, I was in the Army in Ft.McClellen Alabama, and the southern guys were still fighting the civil war. What the hell? Racism is still alive and well today, but getting rid of one kind of flag will not get rid of racism, they'll just get another flag. Just like the gay people now have the rainbow flag to represent them. I fly the Christian flag, the Cross is my statue of liberty!!!! |
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| Freeman | Jun 25 2015, 08:00 AM Post #13 |
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See, someone told you that it was something against the blacks. I believe that is a big portion of why racism still exists, it is being passed on. Racism is very present in the modern day. It is being shoved down the general populous' throat too. |
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| Metromightymouse | Jun 25 2015, 08:07 AM Post #14 |
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I'm going to point out (and I'm a participant in this discussion as well ) that a lot of this discussion is trying to fit through the very small loop hole that allows discussions of current events. Please be careful to not demean or, as the forum rules state "not to say anything disrespectful about a fellow member's country, accent, race, spelling, or intelligence." Thanks, please continue. |
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| Freeman | Jun 25 2015, 08:15 AM Post #15 |
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This is a border line topic, MMM. I appreciate letting it slip through the loop hole. I see racism daily and the people who are saying these things usually claim, "but I'm not a racist." I do identify as someone is partially prejudice. I had a rough time with a particular sect of people when I was a kid and I am still leery of that group of people to this day. Moving on to the topic. What business does the Confederate Flag have being flown at a state building? I really don't see any issue in removing it. I do have an issue with removing the flag from society. I know plenty of people who fly that flag with pride and are not bad people. It is a shame an extremist group, such as the KKK, has ruined that flag for a large portion of our country. I'm fine with removing it from government run complexes because the only flag that should be flown is the American flag. I'll let the state flag slide, but I don't even care for state flags. There are not many people in America that identify as 'Montana-American' or any form of a hyphenated state-country identification. Isn't there like a million proverbs that point to ignoring the crazed extremist groups and you will take away their power? |
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