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People looking to be offending by ANYTHING and making a stink!
Topic Started: Jun 24 2015, 03:50 PM (6,533 Views)
evmetro


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Jul 1 2015, 09:09 PM
evmetro
Jul 1 2015, 04:23 PM
nineoneandblue
Jul 1 2015, 04:07 PM
"Soapbox" to me is not a negative term...........It is what it is.


The term is also used metaphorically to describe a person engaging in often flamboyant impromptu or unofficial public speaking, as in the phrases "He's on his soapbox", or "Get off your soapbox." Hyde Park, London is known for its Sunday soapbox orators, who have assembled at Speakers' Corner since 1872 to discuss religion, politics, and other topics. A modern form of the soapbox is a website on which a user publishes his/her thoughts to whomever they are read by.
Soap Box is cool rhetoric. If you are into this kind of stuff, rhetoric is a really fun term to dig into on the wikipedia. You can get into ethos, pathos, and logos rhetoric. Aristotle is one of my heroes...
I was mired down in rhetoric, once. Had to call on Roadside Semantics to get me out.
If you had just gotten your PhD, (piled higher and deeper), you might have been fine, although you may have suffered from affluenza...
Edited by evmetro, Jul 1 2015, 09:20 PM.
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Cobrajet25
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We are rapidly losing what makes Americans...'Americans', and are steadily being transformed into a disparate bunch of whiney victimhood groups who hate each other and desire an ever-more powerful government to act as our Holy Avenger against those we disagree with or are offended by.

This country is tearing itself apart... And I am starting to think it is being done by design.
Edited by Cobrajet25, Jul 2 2015, 02:03 AM.
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Freeman
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The Family Man

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Jul 1 2015, 04:15 PM
Not looking to start a shitstorm. Just pointing out that the Geo Metro Lounge is being used EXACTLY the way it was designed.
:cheers Until I see someone come in and voice radical opinions and undermine other's opinions, I do relax when I read these threads. It is quite the 'Lounge'.

This is the only place where I can talk about anything without it being extremely polarized.

I will say cwatkin brings up some things that really do upset me about Obama. His morals, politics aside, do not line up with mine.
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Cobrajet25
Jul 2 2015, 02:03 AM
We are rapidly losing what makes Americans...'Americans', and are steadily being transformed into a disparate bunch of whiney victimhood groups who hate each other and desire an ever-more powerful government to act as our Holy Avenger against those we disagree with or are offended by.

This country is tearing itself apart... And I am starting to think it is being done by design.
Ya, think?

It started when Woodrow Wilson became President.

But if one believes in God, then it was His plan to have to world turn out this way in order for His plan to come to fruition. The buffoons in the White House only make His work easier.

Hold on folks, it's only going to get worse from here, because our glorious leader doesn't give two rats rips for the American way of life. He only cares about a Socialist way of life. Everybody must be equal in order for there to be true equality.............elites excluded, of course.
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I am a Socialist myself. However, America is not a Socialist country and cannot be run that way at all. I'm really an all or nothing Socialist, I don't care for this haphazard stuff. Furthermore, I am not a Communist. Socialism is a utopian government and only works with complete cooperation and dedication. Americans, as a whole, would never be able to live under a government such as Socialism. Too many people would attempt to abuse the system. That is why I don't care for the current policy changes.

I really don't enjoy the current representative Democracy that we have though. There should be extreme punishment for representatives who go back on their word. It is displeasing to vote for someone based on value 'A' and then two years later, after winning election, they switch to value 'B'.

Change of subject, brought to fruition based on the previous rainbow of colors on the white house.

I fully expect the White House to be lit up in a glorious red, white and blue this 4th. I expect several captive bread Bald Eagles to be present and no less than the Sergeant Major of the Army to be present; General Odierno is optional, as is any other enlisted or commissioned personnel. I would personally prefer mortar tubes firing off fireworks and a complimentary barbeque, but those seem unlikely.
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I will mention here that we need to be careful in leaning this into a political discussion where one side is better or the other is the enemy. That starts us down the road where we stop treating the other side with respect and the thread gets shut down.
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although you may have suffered from affluenza...
aka "Couch Disease." ;) :thumb Great word, horrific concept.

And thanks Obama Dayle, for adding the very type of response that inevitably contributes to locked threads. And please don't mistakenly believe I was referring to your opinions themselves, it was the nature of how you chose to communicate them along with an apparent lack of respect for those people and things you personally disagree with. Surely you could have taken the time to present your viewpoint (a lot of which I agree with by the way) in a less apocalyptic, more respectful manner? :dunno

It's my opinion that regardless of how we feel about any particular President, we should still show respect for them. That doesn't mean we have to vote for them or like them or suppress our opinions of them, but the Office of the Presidency should still be respected just as the flag should be. Its tough to say people shouldn't be allowed to :shit all over the flag, but :shit ting all over the President becasue we don't personally like him/her is ok. Call me old fashioned.

Before this blows up and gets locked, I just want to add that in my opinion this has been one of the best and most respectfully conducted "social commentary" type discussions I can remember here in a long time and I have enjoyed reading every post in it. :thumb

I should stay out of here now because I sometimes have nightmares of being in a thread when it gets locked and I can't figure out how to escape to freedom. :O
Edited by myredvert, Jul 2 2015, 08:28 AM.
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I remember being in high school when Reagan was elected. All around me there was a sense that it was the beginning of the end for America. I wasn't politically aware at that time so I was mostly just aware that everyone else felt like his presidency was going to be a disaster for our country. I knew this rotund black christian girl who thought that if you added up the digits of Ronald Reagan's birthday, the sum was 666( lol).
We all have the creeping feeling things are going down hill. It is the causes that we don't agree on.
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Metromightymouse
Jul 2 2015, 08:20 AM
I will mention here that we need to be careful in leaning this into a political discussion...
:hmm Was my admitting to being a Socialist at heart part of this?

I do love America and I don't think I would want it any other way, unless we are speaking in utopian ideals. We can all agree that is just dreaming. :D

As for my mention of the over the top display of patriotism at the White House, I don't think that should tread on anyone's views. If it does, I do apologize. I was just having fun, I did not expect it to offend anyone. I do realize being that ignorant can spark some issues, but again, I am sorry.
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Yes, I would hope that the White House is red, white, and blue this weekend too but I doubt it will be. We will see.

I also agree with the comment that this country seems to be tearing itself apart and that this is being done by design. It seems that we are being encouraged to being distracted by a 10 year old flag while much more serious issues are going on. Now classic TV shows, games, books, and movies are being banned because of any imagery portraying the Confederate flag. I am half tempted to buy one the next time I stumble upon one and fly it just out of protest.

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I would like to pose a word of caution to the 'out of protest' portion of your statement; I would be worried that you may incur property damage or worse. I imagine there are a lot of individuals, due to the current 'issue', that may not take kindly to your protest.
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True! I probably wouldn't do that because I am a SUPER MAGNET for crazies! I don't want anything to do with them and I have had a pretty good couple month run of not attracting them too much. Honestly I doubt it would be an issue here but I would be the one to attract the one nutcase. Charging $35 upfront before I do any job has been a great filter for the nuts although some still slip through.

But banning everything with any Confederate image is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.

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Freeman
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It does stink that the Confederate flag got such a bad name so quickly. I have never known anyone to be openly offended by it prior to this incident.

I did see where they pulled the 'Duke' TV show. I would be OK with that if I had read an article around the time of the release of the show that showed obvious protest to the display of the Confederate flag. It just seemed like an arbitrary attack on something to get a sense of 'winning'. In the defense of people who the flag did offend, I do not keep up with everything so it could have easily slipped past me.

Speaking of that whole ordeal, I'm glad that kid got caught without much struggle on the side of the officers. I've heard some pretty scumbag things being said about that video, but the kid didn't resist. That is something everyone being apprehended could learn from. If a psychopathic murderer can be apprehended peacefully, why can't everyone?
Edited by Freeman, Jul 2 2015, 11:06 AM.
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evmetro


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Jul 2 2015, 08:43 AM
I remember being in high school when Reagan was elected. All around me there was a sense that it was the beginning of the end for America. I wasn't politically aware at that time so I was mostly just aware that everyone else felt like his presidency was going to be a disaster for our country. I knew this rotund black christian girl who thought that if you added up the digits of Ronald Reagan's birthday, the sum was 666( lol).
We all have the creeping feeling things are going down hill. It is the causes that we don't agree on.
What we are seeing today are two opposing medias that are politically motivated and have opposing political agenda that they are pushing on their viewers. Back in the Reagan era, the media was measured by and stood more by journalism standards. They were politically motivated back then as well, but nothing like today. Unless a person consumes and evaluates both sides of the media today, he will be a pawn in a war who is bought and paid for by only one side. Many folks out there make a good effort to objectively evaluate both sides, but are unable to see that their surroundings have been engineered so that they can feel like they are seeing both sides, but yet both sides that they are seeing are controlled by a single side. The idea here is that all roads lead to the same conclusion when they are all engineered by only one side.

Here is an interesting example of how media engineers the surroundings to rally power against the other side. It is interesting to watch the video, and then go out onto the internet and see what opinion you would make if you had not seen the video.

https://youtu.be/g-dSBI0kckw

If anybody has seen the movie "The Matrix" you can get an idea of just how complex the deception is from the media is in engineering your perceptions of society. It almost takes a "red pill or blue pill" scenario to form an independent opinion these days, and most folks don't even know that this is what needs to be done. In almost every political debate that I read, both sides are seeing and forming their opinions through a lens that belongs to one of the two opposing media powers.


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cwatkin


This is a good video to watch by the star of the show. http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/dukes-star-compares-tv-land-decision-to-nazi-germany/vi-AAcsCk6

It was a relatively inoffensive show and they pull it yet leave all the other "trash" as he calls it like Jersey Shore and other "reality" TV on the same network. I agree that this stuff is trash. Instead of getting offended, I don't watch it. I don't even subscribe to any TV services as I can watch most of what I want to see online. The problem with TV services is the way the bundle channels. More than half the stuff could go away and I wouldn't care yet you are PAYING for that with most services. Even channels that I used to respect are starting to put out crap. For example, I have seen some outright bogus stuff on the History Channel and the like. I mean it more belongs in the Weekly World News than TV portraying itself as a scientific voice. Do I get all offended about it? No, but I am not going to send them any of my money.

As for Wal Mart stopping the sale of all Confederate merchandise, this "offends" me even though I really don't care about the flag all that much. It is just another step for the leftists. They will move onto something else next like the American flag which many have been targeting for years anyway. Guess what? I am going to try to start buying more from K-Mart here in town. That isn't my favorite place either. Prices of things not on sale tend to be 10-25% higher at K-Mart so that adds up quickly. I am a member of the Shop Your Way rewards program from Sears/K-Mart and have been getting bonus coupons in email recently. The first one was a $10 off any $10 or more purchase so basically this is like a $10 gift card to the store. Then I got a $5 off $10 so that more than offsets the higher prices. Then I got a $20 off $40 one today which I plan to use. Sure, the large cat litter container I usually buy is a couple bucks more at K-Mart but that coupon will more than offset the additional costs of shopping at K-Mart. It seems that the more of these coupons I use, the more I get. I honestly don't see how they can be making money on this and see it as a loss-leader of sorts but I am not complaining. I will use them as long as they keep coming in.

So, if some big chain makes a stink over something like this and it "offends" you, simply don't buy from them.

Conor
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