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Bike in 96 Lsi; I plan on putting a motorcycle engine in the back of my metro if I don't change my mind
Topic Started: Jul 12 2015, 11:54 PM (1,676 Views)
xscottw
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I am rebuilding a 1996 geo metro lsi hatchback that had the 4 cylinder suzuki g13BA 1.3 liters.
I bought the car for $200 and when i went to drive it home it blew up a few mechanics i know said it looked like someone tried retooling the inside and bored the cylinder wall to thin or something.
Anyways enough rambling found a cheap bike engine the CBR600 F3 by honda and some other parts to go with it and was thinking about putting it in the back but I'm still in the planning phases.
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Silver2K


So you will remove the front engine and replace it with a motorcycle engine in the back ? How will the motorcycle engine propel the Metro? Drive a wheel in the back?

Sounds like a fun project. Not trying to discourage you. But it might be cheaper to find a replacement engine. Maybe take apart the original engine and see what broke & see if you can fix it.

I often get ideas for modifying my Metro but never take action.
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xscottw
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Silver2K
Jul 13 2015, 12:21 AM
So you will remove the front engine and replace it with a motorcycle engine in the back ? How will the motorcycle engine propel the Metro? Drive a wheel in the back?

Sounds like a fun project. Not trying to discourage you. But it might be cheaper to find a replacement engine. Maybe take apart the original engine and see what broke & see if you can fix it.

I often get ideas for modifying my Metro but never take action.
Chain driven to a sprocket on the back axle and a small electric engine with belt and switch for reverse.

Took apart the old one hole through the block and two pistons (or pieces of) in the oil pan

The reason the bike was an option is cause I found the engine and tranny for only $300 nearby and I can't find a nearby metro engine for a similar price (cause I was looking for the 4 cyl its suppose to have to go back in)

I don't plan on donig anything till I have some approvals from a few mechanics but thank you :D I'm excited someone commented on this I can't wait to start doing stuff with this :P
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Old Man


good luck attaching a sprocket to the rear axle. :lol :lol :lol :lol
Edited by Old Man, Jul 13 2015, 10:04 PM.
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Stubby79
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It sucks that your "new" car blew up...but it's going to take a lot of work to get that motorcycle engine in there and make it work....and I doubt you'll find it was worth the effort. Maybe if you've done this sort of thing before, sure. Otherwise I'd expect you to hack up the car, get sick of it half way and throw it all away.

Probably easier to stuff some other kind of car engine in the front, and even that would still require plenty of work. Maybe see if someone on the forum is selling a geo 4-banger short or long block?
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Front engined/FWD. Good idea!
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68custom


600 cc seems kinda small also?
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I take it you haven't put very much thought or planning into this idea yet, have you?

8500 rpms screaming away inside the cabin to get a max torque thatis 25% less than a G10...

11,000 rpm to maybe get a bit more hp than a G13...

No drive axle in the back to turn, and somehow I think jbwelding a sprocket on the hubcap might not cut it... :hmm

Now there was this convertible conversion out west where someone welded the entire back half of a motorcycle to the back of the convertible and removed the two rear wheels. That looked pretty interesting. You should look into that idea if you're serious.

I agree with Stubby that the odds of this turning into anything but a throw away are pretty slim. If you like the car, find another 1.3 for it.

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bass heads

you have a hard time finding engine i have a hard time getting rid of them.
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I think you've under-estimated the cost of the conversion.
You'd need the CBR engine and ancillaries (carbs, electrics exhaust) then make the mountings, electrickery and custom make the pipes. Then there's the throttle & clutch cables, extra long speedo drive and gear change mechanism to make. I'm pretty sure the CBR carbs are gravity fed too.

A switch for reverse? Switch what? You would need a separate electric motor to engage in to the drive train somewhere - saw one for $500...

So if you did all the work yourself, there's a few hundred dollars in bits and (if you're experienced) a few hundred hours of labour.
In the end you'll have a screaming bike engine guzzling petrol to propel something 4 times it was designed to do.

I'm not trying to piss on your bonfire - I've spent a hideous amount of money on my G10 conversion when I could have fitted a bike engine (and had people who had done it before to turn to for help). Even in my tiny car I wouldn't have picked a 600cc motor - you need a >900cc for the torque or you might as well remove all the seats in the car apart from the driver's.

You'd be better off financially, mentally and in time spent putting any Swift engine in that will fit.
Which variants would actually drop in? G10, G12, G13, G15, G16?
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xscottw
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myredvert
Jul 16 2015, 08:05 PM
I take it you haven't put very much thought or planning into this idea yet, have you?

8500 rpms screaming away inside the cabin to get a max torque thatis 25% less than a G10...

11,000 rpm to maybe get a bit more hp than a G13...

No drive axle in the back to turn, and somehow I think jbwelding a sprocket on the hubcap might not cut it... :hmm

Now there was this convertible conversion out west where someone welded the entire back half of a motorcycle to the back of the convertible and removed the two rear wheels. That looked pretty interesting. You should look into that idea if you're serious.

I agree with Stubby that the odds of this turning into anything but a throw away are pretty slim. If you like the car, find another 1.3 for it.

I actually considered this and doing a body mod to get rid of extra weight in the front but from the way it's looking all of you are correct i have a few mechanics as friends who told me they would be willing to help out but after looking at the specs (as someone else mentioned) I would need a 900cc plus engine. Anyways I hope i found a 1995 geo metro LSi with a 4 cyl that i can drop into my car or fix to make it run itself I'm going to close this thread since things changed i suppose and the title no longer reflects What it would be about. Does anyone know how difficult it is to do a swap from the 95 4 door LSi 4 cyl to a 96 hatchback and will the OBD still be version II or since its before 96 be a OBD I.
Edited by xscottw, Aug 6 2015, 12:11 PM.
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And there you have it, from sir Nitrowing, conversion master himself.. :cheers

Put in another G10, or a G12, or whatever it takes... :D

What's wrong with a little bonfire pissing though? :lol

When you put the engine from the 94 in, you still use the 'bolt on" components from the 96 - the throttle body, manifold, sensors, wiring harness, etc and the computer stay the same and go on the engine. Essentially what you are doing is using the 94 long block but making it part of your 96 OBD II system.
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Speaking of cramming a motorcycle engine in a monocoque "vehicle" I give you... Squeezing a 600cc engine in to a Tuk Tuk (Far Cry 4):

The build:



After adding weapons he drives it a little like in the Far Cry 4 game.

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