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Still Trouble with Starting!!
Topic Started: Jul 21 2015, 01:27 PM (1,547 Views)
toms95geometrolsi
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Jul 21 2015, 02:38 PM
a few minutes ago here's what I did.

1. I pulled the wire off the "spade terminal" on the solenoid. This is the one that goes back to the relay I installed.
2. I put a free length of wire with a spade onto that solenoid spade terminal and then touched the other bare end to the +battery terminal. Car started immediately. I removed my free wire and drove home.

I can't check the "relay clicking" on my own from inside the car when I am stuck alone. So, no way to know.

If I knew how to put in a push button and get rid of this problem forever I would do it instantly. Because if the car remains like this, I will be forced to sell it. I can't have a car leaving me stranded at random places.

Is is easy to wire the button?
One way to start the engine without a helper or any mechanical engineering. Is to put a light weight length of rope / twine . On a large pair of pliers / vice grips .if u use a rope, tie the plier handles together so they won't fall off your key while already in the ignition and in the ON position, then position the steering wheel so that you can run the rope through the steering wheel pull the rope and thus the pliers to rotate the key to start position and once the engine starts you can release the rope to return the key to ON position. Then u can run the rope out the car window to start it from outside the car. I learned to do this when my starter went out and I had to hit the starter with a hammer to make the silonoid become unstuck. Turned out I could lay on the ground with the rope in one hand hammer in the other .pull the rope so the key was in the start position then hit the starter or even any where near it . It would start and I could release the rope. Lots easier than whacking the thing a time or two and getting in the car to see if it released. .


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Another method is follow the FSM diagnostic procedure and connect a voltmeter according to the real diagnostic test, set the voltmeter on the windshield and sit in the car and crank it and get the reading that leads you to the next step.

Then at most 10 minutes later you have your answer as to what needs to be replaced.

Then (if it's a starter or solenoid that's bad) 15 minutes after you bring the starter home it's installed.

Edited by myredvert, Aug 9 2015, 10:04 PM.
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I read a post from back a few years, where guys were using ford remote silonoids to replace bad geo silonoids . Several said they tried it and it worked fine and got the silonoid up on the firewall away from the heat and road grime and motor oil. I had a 65 ford F100 that had that same silonoid they used those for years. ..
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toms95geometrolsi
Aug 9 2015, 10:44 PM
I read a post from back a few years, where guys were using ford remote silonoids to replace bad geo silonoids . Several said they tried it and it worked fine and got the silonoid up on the firewall away from the heat and road grime and motor oil. I had a 65 ford F100 that had that same silonoid they used those for years. ..
The ford solenoid is a high current relay and totally unnecessary in this application. A typical automotive relay works perfectly fine. The rope thing is pretty ingenious but the number of potential things that could go wrong, including breaking the key off in the ignition would prevent me from trying it. A mechanics starter button would be a much better solution. Turn the key on, clip the leads to the starter power wire and the ignition spade on the starter, hit the starter and push the button. If it starts, pop the leads off and go.
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