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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 5 2015, 02:06 PM (2,586 Views) | |
| Jenny | Aug 5 2015, 02:06 PM Post #1 |
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I took my car to the mechanic to have the brakes checked. They said they can't even check the rear brakes because the "stake bolts" on there cannot be replaced and it looks like they've already been taken on and off a couple of times and that if they try to remove them, they might not be able to get them back on. He said that those are parts that are usually replaced each time, but those parts are obsolete and that I will never be able to get my rear brakes done unless I can get my hands on some new ones. And even then, if something else goes while they're working on the car, there's no more parts out there to fix it. Is this true? I'm in BC Canada. My Geo still has under 100,000km on it. Everything else is fantastic - great condition! But could a handful of stake bolts be ends the life of my car? Say it ain't so! ![]() |
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| nineoneandblue | Aug 5 2015, 02:34 PM Post #2 |
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Not sure what their talking about.... can be had at several auto parts stores.... I've included link for one source. http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-615-103-1-M16-1-5-Thread-Spindle/dp/B0049EC2DQ |
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| t3ragtop | Aug 5 2015, 03:53 PM Post #3 |
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either your mechanic is an idiot or that was his excuse for not wanting to work on your car's brakes. ![]() dorman has blister packs of 2 spindle stake nuts hanging in nearly every car parts store in north america.
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| ptcapboy | Aug 5 2015, 04:01 PM Post #4 |
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from post number 2 it looks like you can easily get the bolts but a trick I heard a person can do is to re-install the left bolt on the right and vice versa-that way there is a greater chance of finding an unstaked area on the bolt-also I have driven hundreds of miles on a tighted but unstaked bolt and my left front driveshaft which I relplaced about 100,000 miles ago came with a regular bolt (I believe the front driveshaft staked bolts are the same) a old fashioned hole through the shaft with a cotter pin worked great on older cars |
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| nineoneandblue | Aug 5 2015, 06:48 PM Post #5 |
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I believe the front and rears are different size....... M18-1.5 for the front and M16-1.5 on the rear. Everything else you might need...... shoes, wheel cyl,brake lines, hardware, etc. can be found at rockauto.com at reasonable prices. Edited by nineoneandblue, Aug 5 2015, 07:29 PM.
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| Physics_Outlaw | Aug 5 2015, 07:02 PM Post #6 |
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Jenny, You can also use an internet search for spindle lock nuts instead of "stake bolts". I found the last two in my area at AutoZone stores for $4.99 each just this past Friday. The original packaging that I received says, "Part # 615-103.1 Mazda M1 made in Taiwan". Hope this helps and good luck with the drum brakes. I did them back in May of 2011. While you or your mechanic are in there, inspect the wheel bearings and either re-grease or swap them out for new ones. Just don't lose the spacers in between the bearings. I had to find another spacer at Suzuki (thanks to this forum) and I believe it was their last one at the time. Edited by Physics_Outlaw, Aug 5 2015, 07:04 PM.
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| 1DCGUY | Aug 5 2015, 09:44 PM Post #7 |
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Don't be a "Richard"
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I vote idiot!! |
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| sphenicie | Aug 6 2015, 07:15 AM Post #8 |
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find a new mechanic......but before you do tell him "the reason you can not find the 'stake bolts', you idiot, is because they are stake nuts!"> |
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| perfesser | Aug 6 2015, 10:57 PM Post #9 |
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![]() So your mechanic kept a straight face when he told the poor damsel in distress that her car would have to be scrapped when the brakes wore out? I wonder if he'd have said that same thing to a guy in the same circumstances?? In the famous words of that immortal philosopher, the great B. Bunny ... what a maroooooonnn!!! |
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| sphenicie | Aug 7 2015, 07:27 AM Post #10 |
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Dorman p/n is 615-115 |
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| Jenny | Sep 18 2015, 04:11 PM Post #11 |
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Thanks for your help. However, I'm still stuck. I just got back from the largest parts supply store in my area and the guy actually laughed at me. He said "Don't have them. Can't get them." When I tried to tell him that it the Mazda M1 ones (that Physics_Outlaw mentioned) should be compatible, he scoffed and said "Ya, sure." and then went on to another customer. Why do people have to be so rude? I've found the part online, but that place only ships to the USA. And then other places don't have it. This is very frustrating and near-distressing. Anyone have any other suggestions or places that I can try? I live in BC, Canada. ![]() Edited by Jenny, Sep 18 2015, 04:12 PM.
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| Memphis metro | Sep 18 2015, 04:15 PM Post #12 |
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Jenny you can change sides with the nuts and reuse them. (Most businesses will not do it but an individual mechanic can) You do need another mechanic if that mechanic will use that for a excuse. You need a mechanic that will find the nuts for you to do the job if he does not want to rotate the nuts to the opposite side and reuse them. The reason you can use them on the opposite side is because the part that is staked will usually be in a differant location on the opposite side of the car. Napa has a nut for it but it is a little differant then the one on the car. Your mechanic is not really a idiot. He is telling you the truth that the nuts are replaced every time you take the wheels off and replacement nuts are hard to find but they are around. |
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| Jenny | Sep 18 2015, 04:26 PM Post #13 |
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I think the sides have already been switched before. I had to have inspections done to the car when I moved provinces, and had to have it fully inspected twice. The last mechanic said he wasn't going to touch them because it he took them off, he'd unlikely be able to put them back on and there were no replacements. I've searched the Canadian Napa part store online, but can't find anything: http://www.napacanada.com/en.aspx I would definitely bring my car to someone else next time, but if it's true that even the large parts supplier here can't locate that part, then how will the mechanic be able to do that? That's the supply store they always go through. Every website I check either says they don't have that part, or only ships to the USA. ![]() |
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| Memphis metro | Sep 18 2015, 04:36 PM Post #14 |
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I do not think the dorman nuts are the same quality nut as the oem. If they are like the last ones I bought, I do not trust them. They were considerably smaller and less quality. They will screw on and you can peen them but they are flimsy compared to the original nuts. I actually looked at mine the last time I had it off to see if I could drill a small hole and put in a cotter pin. I do not remember my thoughts on the subject because I had nuts but my point is there is a way to over come the issue if it comes to it besides junk the car. A machine shop could even help if they saw the old nut and the problem. The nut itself can be used, the only reason they do not reuse them is because of the safety feature of being able to peen them. The nut itself will still hold the drum fine, it just needs a way to provide the safety feature if it cannot be peened. I will try to see if I can locate some oem quality nuts locally where I live next week. If I can find us some, I will send you a couple of them. |
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| David95237 | Sep 18 2015, 05:10 PM Post #15 |
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Napa has them in the us. NOE 6301601 |
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